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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 11:59 AM
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The Rich Have Stolen The Economy
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Rich-Have-Stolen-The-E-by-Paul-Craig-Roberts-091016-883.html


The Rich Have Stolen The Economy
Paul Craig Roberts

Bloomberg reports that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's closest aides earned millions of dollars a year working for Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and other Wall Street firms. Bloomberg reports that none of these aides faced Senate confirmation. Yet, they are overseeing the handout of hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer funds to their former employers.
The gifts of billions of dollars of taxpayers' money provided the banks with an abundance of low cost capital that has boosted the banks' profits, while the taxpayers who provided the capital are increasingly unemployed and homeless.

JPMorgan Chase announced that it has earned $3.6 billion in the third quarter of this year.

Goldman Sachs has made so much money during this year of economic crisis that enormous bonuses are in the works. London Evening Standard reports that Goldman Sachs' “5,500 London staff can look forward to record average payouts of around 500,000 pounds ($800,000) each. Senior executives will get bonuses of several million pounds each with the highest paid as much as 10 million pounds ($16 million).“


In the event the banksters can't figure out how to enjoy the riches, the Financial Times is offering a new magazine--”How To Spend It.” New York City's retailers are praying for some of it, suffering a 15.3% vacancy rate on Fifth Avenue. Statistician John Williams (shadowstats.com) reports that retail sales adjusted for inflation have declined to the level of 10 years ago: “Virtually 10 years worth of real retail sales growth has been destroyed in the still unfolding depression.”

Meanwhile, New York City's homeless shelters have reached the all time high of 39,000, 16,000 of whom are children.

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:09 PM
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1. I like "banksters." It evokes an image of gangsters, which is what they are--gangsters and thugs.
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 12:14 PM by Fridays Child
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:16 PM
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3. "Banksters" has been around for awhile now and is my preferred term for them. n/t
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:13 PM
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2. A guy on Ali Velshi's CNN Money Gang this morning said
that we are heading towards a science and intellectual economy and we'll no longer have a manufacturing economy. I wonder if everyone, every average joe and jane, will be a scientist and inventor. Or will they be required to make flying saucer balloons in their backyards to try to get back on a reality show to earn a little cash. Where does a science and invention economy, where the inventions are manufactured off-shore, leave the average person?
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:45 AM
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19. don't overlook the "reality show" circus
and who makes all the money for those sideshows,namely the corporations that produce them.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:22 PM
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4. Just wait until the Democrats take back the White House and the Congress.
Democrats simply won't put up with this sort of thing. They represent the People.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:25 PM
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5. don't know whether to....
:rofl: or:cry:
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:36 PM
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6. You hit that nail right on the head!! n/t
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:51 PM
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8. Thank you.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:56 PM
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9. +1
:spray: :evilgrin:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:09 PM
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11. which people
would that be? :shrug:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:17 PM
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12. Ouch.
:rofl:

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:44 AM
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13. +1 and also knr to the OP. nt
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:20 AM
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16. Too many Max Baucuses and Mary Landrieus. Not enough Sherrod Browns and Al Frankens.
That's the problem. Appeaser corporate bootshiner Dems are worse than Republicans, because with Repubs, you at least KNOW you're going to be screwn should you vote for them.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:03 AM
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23. Yep.
First the excuse was that the pubs were in power. Then from 06 to 08 it was that the Dems didn't have a majority. Now, the truth comes out. The political process of both parties caters to the ones that donate the most to the campaigns, doing the right thing never even enters into the equation.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:45 AM
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26. +1 nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 12:49 PM
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7. Jeff Faux, "The Global Class War" (How America's Bipartisan Elite
Lost our futures--and what it will take to win it back.)

This book was written and presented in full on C-Span long
before our present crisis. Easy read
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 02:03 PM
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10. 10/17: International Day for the Eradication of Poverty.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:10 AM
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14. k
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:14 AM
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15. Stolen, They've Always Owned It...
In the best of times, they've been forced to share their riches through regulations and higher taxes. The middle and lower classes have only benefitted when these powers are reigned in and forced to pay their employees decent wages or provide health care...none of this is volunteered, it's had to be mandated.

For the past 30 years we've lived with "trickle down" that assumes the rich can only horde so much or spend so much. We're finding out there's no limits to either and neither has benefitted the masses. Time to reregulate...either enforce laws on the books or reinstate those that were wiped away...especially during the years of rushpublican control.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:35 AM
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17. Some good articles in the Guardian. However, before rushing to judgment, it should
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:37 AM
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18. SAME .nt
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:47 AM
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20. I say, lets take it back!
:shrug: Who's gonna stop us? Them????

K&R

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:48 AM
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21. When did the rich ever NOT own the economy?
:shrug:
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:57 AM
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22. President Obama, PLEASE channel FDR. Please.
We are at a point of destruction, not just depression. We need an FDR, and you are our only hope, given Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Please be another FDR. Please.



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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:06 AM
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24. There's an almost insufferable irony,
that the very ones who caused this crisis got bailed out to the tune of billions and are now doing very well, thank you, while the ones who did the bailing are worried about their next meal. The pubs did an incredible job of turning this fury that would be completely normal and channeling not against the natural enemy, but into 'tea party' nonsense.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:43 AM
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25. The rich have stolen the country. kr nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:46 AM
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27. k&r
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:46 AM
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28. Now, It ONLY Works for Rich Investment Cartels
I think the general trend that this article refers to, although I am way too angry to read it and am sick of the whole situation, is the increasingly large segment of the "economy" that is taken up by the financial/investment/brokers/Wall Street paper-shuffling and movement of money, which actually contributes nothing. Sen. Tom Harkin had a hearing on this a while ago, on its increasing share of the entire activity of the economy, and how "banking/investing" as a group used to account for some 20-25% per cent of all wealth and G.D.P., etc., during the 1940s-1960s, I think it was, (when the economy was healthy, based on union membership, manufacturing, local small business, etc.), and now it is huge--over 50% or something, I believe. Meanwhile, manufacturing, the real basis of a good, self-sustaining economy, has been sent to other countries, and is dying here.

The point is that it is getting more and more consolidated, as during the 1920s, the "recovery" affects nothing because it is only this same group of rich corporate investors; recessions get worse because the rest of the real economy has been dismantled and there is nothing to rebuild, etc. When these people get power and control, they start imposing more and more absurd and destructive measures--cutting all corporate taxes, rules, cutting all distinctions between business activities (so individual corporations can just swallow up everything), etc. They buy whole industries and supplies, only to take them off the market, get a monopoly, and hike up pirces whenever they want to cut supplies, etc. If regulated Wall St. stocks are taxed, then they invent and move all activity to unregulated markets that cannot even be tracked, where now nothing is taxed--hedge funds, spot markets, offshore, etc., etc.

This is why we now have the propaganda that "the economy" has "recovered," yet it is only the completely shrunken, consolidated Wall St. investor area of it--nothing else is doing anything but worsening (unemployment, bankruptcies, debt, foreclosures, etc.). Oh, if only Obama knew! Obama can't possibly know anything about this, just the way Bush didn't know about Katrina and Rita, right? It's all so secret.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:48 AM
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29. the way Bush didn't know about Katrina and Rita
excellent comparison, unfortunately..
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:49 AM
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30. The New Robber Barons are running the government. "A financial coup d'etat"
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:05 PM
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31. Took 'em 29 years (since January 1981) to bring back the feudal system.
http://themiddleages.tripod.com/feudal_system.htm

But this time, the courts of the crime-son kings have up to the nuclear firepower to remain on top...
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 12:19 PM
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32. Something to be said for keeping the culprits close-by to untangle the crime scene.
Geithner is being tarred with guilt by association, and the crisis more complicated that we understand. I do know the too big to fail haven't reconciled their troubled assets, and those bonuses should have paid them off instead. One thing to say out of the woods, propel some positivism, another to be dishonest and continuing to be leeches. Much of what was done paid of global debts, whih we never want to consider as necessary, but we were banksters to others as well.
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