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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:38 PM
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Poll question: Which type flu have you had in recent years?
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 03:51 PM by uppityperson
second try, first time DU had a bug and won't post choices. Ironic.

Edited to add "no flu"
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:41 PM
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1. No flu for 10 years or so...
I've had two or three flu vaccinations in that time...
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:42 PM
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2. I've had 1 bad cold and that was a few years ago...
no vaccines either. But that's going to change very soon, IMO.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:42 PM
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3. no flu
no vaccinations.....
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:42 PM
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4. never had flu.... nt
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:43 PM
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5. I had Option A flu last year
Was the first time I had the flu since soph. year of high school 15 years ago
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:44 PM
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6. None. For as long as I can remember
never had a vaccine either.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:45 PM
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7. Ditto!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:45 PM
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8. the poll needs option of "no flu". nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:50 PM
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12. I'll see if I can add that. Thank you for the suggestion
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:00 PM
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17. thanks. cause i am curious. maybe that is difference in mentality too. if you never get flu
47 yrs of never having it and never had shot, wouldnt perspective be different
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:18 PM
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21. Actually, I'm trying to see what people consider flu symptoms, what they have had they consider flu
to be more accurate, could have written influenza, but am more curious about what "flu" means.

I am sure that personal experience and a whole lot of factors factor into how people look at the vax stuff.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:16 PM
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42. and that is another point. i have had 24 hour thing, throw up and done.
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 05:16 PM by seabeyond
figured something i ate

but doesnt seem to be what people talk about so figure not a flu. talking weeks of pain and agony. nope. but i am curious too.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:45 AM
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91. Same here. nt
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:47 PM
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9. Haven't had the flu in more than 20 years. I had it back then
after I got a flu shot! Haven't had the shot since!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:48 PM
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10. I had the rocking pneumonia and the boogie woogie flue
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:50 PM
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11. For all the foolhardy non-vaccinated out there:
You'll think twice once you've had round with a nasty A strain.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:51 PM
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13. Flu shots every year no flu for at least 15 years. n/t
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:12 PM
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85. I got the flu in college when I was 18. I had never been so sick! Flu shot faithfully since!
But 21 years later, the year before last, the predicted strain for the vaccine was incorrect and I got it anyway... again, hit like a ton o' bricks!

I swear by the shot and will get it every year unless there is a shortage!

I work for a major hospital, but not in patient care. They are predicting 40% absenteeism during the peak this year! :scared:
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:52 PM
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14. I've had both within the past year,
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 03:54 PM by Island Blue
although I don't really consider option B the "flu". Edited to say that I got the flu vaccine for the first time ever last year, but still wound up with a nasty case of the flu a couple of months later.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:57 PM
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15. No flu but get all the symptoms from the vaccine every year so what's the difference?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:03 PM
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19. The difference?
Depth and length of suffering, unless you were flat on your back for two weeks wishing for life to end.

I've not had the flu in many years but I get the flu shot every year. I'm lucky for I never get any flu-like symptoms from the shot, just a sore arm.




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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:33 PM
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45. Clearly never having had the flu you don't have a clue of what it is
unless you have been out for a week with a 103 temp unable to raise your head from your pillow even if the house was on fire - the good news is you don't even care if it burns down because then you would be dead and wouldn't feel so bad.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:04 AM
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127. So you miss work for two weeks every year after taking the flu shot?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 03:58 PM
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16. No flu.
I've been getting the vaccine every year for years due to a chronic health condition, and I haven't had the flu once in all that time.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:35 PM
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27. Me too !
I've had the flu shot every year for the past decade and haven't had the flu in all that time.
Before I had the flu shot I would get sever colds and flu every year.
I don't even get a cold anymore.

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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:01 PM
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18. Never had the flu or a flu shot.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:05 PM
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20. I've had the norovirus a couple of times
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 04:08 PM by Blue_In_AK
within the past 10 years, but I'm not sure if that's considered "flu."

The only other times I've had serious flu or flu-like illness as an adult was the Hong Kong flu in 1968 and a viral meningitis/encephalitis of unknown origin in 1980. I've never had a flu shot.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:30 PM
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24. Aha, you are too bright for me
I consider "flu" influenza, but there are people who say gi issues are also "flu". Norovirus, food poisoning, etc, I consider gastrointestinal issues. I've had this go around with people and the "I had a flu shot then had such bad diarrhea a couple weeks later, flu shots never work on me" so was being curious here.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:58 PM
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32. The one I knew for absolute certain
was influenza was that Hong Kong shit back in '68. It knocked me right on my butt for two weeks -- seriously, I could barely walk from my bed across the room without help. I probably should have been in the hospital, but I was too poor and hadn't been at my job long enough to have sick leave, much less insurance. I kept trying to make myself go to work...I still remember sitting at my desk with my big coat on (this was around Thanksgiving time) because I had the chills so bad. My boss kept sending me home day after day. He was such a sweet man - he gave me a big box of food for Christmas because I had lost so much time and was so terribly broke. Those were some hard times.

I believe the Hong Kong flu was a bird flu, not swine, but it seems like I may have picked up some general immunity from having had it.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:01 PM
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33. influenza is primarily respiratory issues. If you don't cough afterwards,
probably not influenza.

Sounds like you were really sick, nice you had such a boss.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:13 PM
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41. He was a prince of a guy.
I can't tell you how many times I came to work coming down off acid trips or whatever - which he knew - and he'd just smile and go easy on me until I came around. Those were the days... :hippie: I actually gave him a call just a few years ago - he must have been in his late 70s by then - to thank him again for his kindness. One of the best bosses I ever had, personnel director at the Great Western Sugar Company in Denver.
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ccinamon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:14 PM
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69. I also had the Hong Kong flu in 1968
and have only had the flu 3-4 times since then...I also believe I have some general immunity to flu because of it. Hubby and kids at various times have come down with a bad case of flu and I skate right thru...other times I get the flu and they don't....all very interesting!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:09 PM
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35. The "Cruise Ship" virus - wife and I had it last Christmas
I've never been so miserable in my life. Can't imagine having it on board a ship that's rolling around. I lost 11 pounds in a week mostly from dehydration even though I consumed gallons of electrolyte replacement stuff.

I haven't had a flu shot since I retired in 2000. And come to think of it, other than the norovirus, I've never had the flu either.

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:26 PM
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43. It's really awful.
I caught a case of it right after I got back from California in May. Like you, I lost about seven pounds.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:52 PM
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53. I had it a year and a half ago. Nasty thing.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:25 PM
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23. other. I had SARS in 2000
Fucked me up pretty good. Only CIPRO got rid of it. Scar tissue all over my lungs, can't surf big waves any more, I have no wind.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:33 PM
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25. I have not had any kind of flu in decades, 30+ years. No flu shots either.
How is this possible? :shrug:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:34 PM
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26. I had influenza a few yrs back, for several yrs in a row. Chills, achiness, eventual bronchial cough
for a couple weeks. First sign is usually achiness or skin sensitivity (for instance the toilet seat is too hard when I sit to pee). Then fever and I call and cancel work for a week. Couple yrs back it set off my asthma to the point I almost needed to be at ER, but managed to get it under control with enough inhalers.

I hate influenza and now get vaccinated every yr, the sooner the better so I'm not exposed before hand.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:20 PM
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102. that's the kind I always get - I can tell when my feet start to ache (weird)
and then incredible tiredness sets in, followed by respiratory stuff. I used to get it once every year (except for the years when I got the flu shot, or my son did.)
I just assumed I got it since my son brought germs home from school, also I work with kids all the time, and they always give you "the plague."


:D


I did get a flu shot this year, so I'm hoping I won't get whatever it is...
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:35 PM
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28. No flu for about 15 years and no shots
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 04:36 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
My last flu from many years ago was when I came back from China on business. It was a real bad one that completely wiped me out. Since that bad flu, however, I haven't even had a common cold. Just pure luck I guess.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 04:41 PM
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30. Kung Flu
It'll kick yo ass!
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:08 PM
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34. I can't say for sure
I haven't been to a doctor in ages. I think I've had the flu a couple or three times - fever, chills, upset stomach and body aches that were so debilitating I could not function. I self-treated with rest, liquids, homemade chicken soup and antibiotics from the aquarium store.

Fortunately I no longer work in the public sector.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:09 PM
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36. I've never had any flu and I've never had a flu shot. I'm 43.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:11 PM
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37. #2 and hospitalized when there was vax shortage; I'm insulinn dependent. nt
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 05:14 PM by blondeatlast
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:12 PM
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38. I never got a flu shot until about 5 years ago after one of the worst
illnesses I've ever had. It's the only time I had a fever so high I hallucinated and it was terrifying. I honestly thought I was going to die.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:12 PM
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39. Only had the flu a few times... starts off a little like a cold or throat virus, but
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 05:13 PM by TwilightGardener
then hits much harder, and includes fever, cough, chills, body and joint aches, weakness and a near-complete shutdown of my GI system. Never went to the doctor with flu, though, so I've never been actually diagnosed.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:12 PM
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40. The bad kind n/t
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 05:35 PM
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44. No flu.
I've had the vaccine 3 times in 10 years. I haven't had the flu in a couple of decades.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:35 PM
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46. Type A seasonal, Type B seasonal - the same year even and H1N1
all total three of the times ended up with a trip to the ER - one of them twice in one day - before and after getting on a plane to fly cross country instead of being stranded where I knew no one.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:36 PM
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47. We think I had a VERY MILD one in the summer
which we, my doc and I, were thankful for.

And no, not in your choices.

It was the wrong time of the year for a cold, but hinnie was wide spread...

:-)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:05 PM
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48. No flu for over 15 years. I get vaccinated annually.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:12 PM
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49. a little OT but i have had the seasonal flu twice..
once without the vaccine..(I was so sick for so long) and once after I got the vaccine..(I was very sick the first day, felt fine the next day)

It kind of tics me off when people say things like.."oh, I never get the flu,I don't need a shot'..or "the flu shot will give you the flu"..

Having the flu without the vaccine once will make a believer out of you..it did for me.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:13 PM
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50. I don't get the flu, nor do I get those damn flu shots.
Who decided it was safe, and for whom?

Some FDA big shot, who's hoping to cash-in with a pharmaceutical company?

Some pharmaceutical company that has done a "study?"
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:54 PM
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54. The science-phobia is strong in this post.
:eyes:
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:42 PM
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82. Thousands of Dr.s. Public Health Officials, the CDC, FDA and the anecdotal evidence of millions
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 06:29 PM
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105. When a doctor comes to me and says that a family member was very concerned that I should get it....
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 06:44 PM by Kansas Wyatt
So I concede, only to find out the fucking doctor LIED to me about the family member calling the office, then CREDIBILITY becomes an issue. Oh, and I do NOT trust a fucking thing that was approved by the U.S. Government, since 2001, because profit and fanatic ideology were placed above citizens. It's not a secret that the U.S. Government has done nasty shit to it's unknowing citizens in the recent past, but you have the freedom to believe all you want.

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 07:20 PM
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106. So you believe the Obama Admin is conspiring with big pharma to test something on the public?
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:59 PM
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107. So are you naive enough to think the Obama Admin suddenly changed what was already out of the bottle
They have barely begun to scratch the surface on what is there, and they seem to take the approach that nothing was ever done that would be harmful. 'Look forward,' remember? You know, give the Treasury to Wall Street, while 'hope is on the way' for Main Street.

Like I told you before... You have the right to believe whatever you want. Just like I have the right to NOT believe whoever I do not trust. I do NOT get the flu, so I see no reason to inject a U.S. Government / Pharmaceutical cocktail in my body, just so I can experience the flu. And you want me to PAY for it too? :rofl:

So then, that will be all.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:01 PM
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108. Wow, you need help. I know what they mean by flu paranoia now.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:45 PM
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110. Don't need help, because....
I DO NOT GET THE FLU. Apparently I DO NOT GET THE FLU seems to make you think that YOU have the right to force a flu shot on me just to reaffirm your superior medical skills.

And no, you will never be administering any "help" to me. No, none at all. You probably would be able to raise me from the dead though... I promise, I would get up and run the hell away from you.

NOW, THAT WILL BE ALL... Which means, go away.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:48 PM
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:01 AM
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126. I don't care whether or not you get the flu shot. Quit being paranoid.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:49 AM
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113. "inject a U.S. Government / Pharmaceutical cocktail in my body, just so I can experience the flu."??
Dead influenza viruses are injected so your body will make antibodies so if you do get the live virus in you from somewhere your body will be able to react quickly enough to kill it before it gets a good foothold.

The reason people get vaccinated is to prevent a disease, not to get one.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 10:07 AM
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119. Then why do people get sick after getting the shot?
I do not ever get the flu, so I see no reason to get the shot. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 11:43 AM
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120. The injectable vaccine is a dead virus it can't give you the flu.
A very small portion of people who have already been infected with the flu coincidentally get a flu shot before they start to show symptoms. When you give millions of shots every year that is just bound to happen to a minute portion of the population.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 01:31 PM
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121. They may have been exposed already or a different strain of influenza, or they get gi virus
which is totally different. Norovirus, food poisoning, are "stomach flu" and untouched by influenza vaccine.

Influenza vaccine has dead virus in it. So no, you cannot get sick with that virus because it is dead. Rather like you won't get eaten by a dead tiger, even if you go into a cage with it in it. Dead tigers don't eat people. Dead viruses don't infect people.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 06:48 PM
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122. You are telling me that this flu shot is 100% safe, with NO side effects....
Or possible dangers whatsoever?
Come on, tell the truth now.

Oh, and has the government ever claimed that something is safe, and been wrong years later?
Remember, tell the truth.

If you say the dead tiger is dead, then you go into the cage with it. I have no reason to be in a cage with a live or dead tiger.

Allow me to repeat... I DO NOT GET THE FLU, therefore I do not need to get injected with an alleged 'dead' foreign substance that the government claims is safe, according to the pharmaceutical industry.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 02:21 AM
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123. That is a leap of logic. You are putting words in my mouth, not saying that at all
(or would it be a strawman?)

At any rate, you cannot get influenza from the influenza vaccine because the influenza in the vaccine is DEAD. Rather like a person cannot get eaten by a dead tiger. Whether or not you, as an individual, care to enter a dead tiger's cage. No person entering the cage with the dead tiger would not get eaten by the dead tiger. No person injected with dead influenza would get influenza from that vaccine.

As far as "You are telling me that this flu shot is 100% safe, with NO side effects....
Or possible dangers whatsoever?
Come on, tell the truth now. "?

Truth is you are either leaping wildly, purposely misunderstanding, putting words into my mouth, or attempting a strawman. Putting it politely.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 02:55 PM
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128. No, let me make it very easy for you to understand....
I do NOT get the flu, so I will NOT get a flu shot, just because the Government and Pharmaceutical Industry claims I need to get it. All YOU have to do, is just let me be on my way, since I am not trying to convince anyone what they should do themselves.

Are you saying that the flu shot is 100% safe, with no side effects, and it will stand up to the test of time?

Why do you think that I do not have the right to decide what is injected into my body?

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 07:08 PM
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129. Try again. Nothing is 100% safe and I don't care if you inject it or not, you have the right to refu
refuse it. As of now, legally of course you have the right to refuse.

You wanted to know why people "get sick" after having influenza vaccine and I told you why.

Why do you think I am saying you do not have the "right to decide what is injected into my body"? WHERE have I said that? Go fight with those who ARE saying that, not me who is not.

good grief
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:35 PM
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51. no flu. 44 years old. Had the flu 20 years ago and 34 years ago.
I believe I got that swine flu shot back in 76. Never had another flu shot.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:48 PM
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52. Nitpick: "Stomach Flu" is totally unrelated to actual Infuenza, completely different virus.
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 07:50 PM by Odin2005
I haven't had the flu since I was 10.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:41 PM
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58. Indeed it is not related to influenza
If I could count how many times I have had to tell people that they are incorrect in "I got the shot but I got the flu several times anyway, have never had diarrhea so bad in my life!" Did you ever cough? "No, what does THAT have to do with the flu and flu shot?" sigh
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:02 PM
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55. I've had actual influenza once, in 1973. Most of what people call "the flu" isn't really.
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 08:05 PM by scarletwoman
There are lots of different viruses that cause a variety of symptoms, like fever, aches, coughing, and/or gastro-intestinal misery, but they aren't influenza.

In 1973 I had the real thing -- I don't know if I'm remembering correctly, but I think it was being called Hong Kong Flu at the time. I tried researching it recently, but everything I found referred to a big Hong Kong Flu outbreak in the late 60s. And the Swine Flu in 1976. I haven't found anything about what was going around in 1973, but I remember clearly there being news stories about it at the time.

The reason I was trying to look it up is because I've been wondering if whatever it was might have afforded me any kind of immunity to H1N1. I intend to get the H1N1 vaccination if possible, and have already gotten the seasonal flu vaccine. I'm just a bit nervous about contracting H1N1 -- which has already started spreading where I work -- before the vaccine supply catches up.

I had a stupid anonymous virus a couple years ago that attacked my lungs so badly I ended up in the hospital on oxygen for two days. It was a horrible feeling, not being to breathe. I'm not anxious to experience anything like that again -- which is why I'm nervous about H1N1. I'd feel a bit less edgy if I knew whether the 1973 flu strain was at all related.

sw
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:50 PM
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59. Thanks for your reply. I agree and have had a nasty one also, but didn't en up in hosp
Simply put, if you don't cough afterward, chances you had influenza are miniscule. While influenza can have a gi (gastrointestinal) component, it is primarily a respiratory disease.

I had a stupid anonymous virus a couple yrs ago that almost got me in the hosp, but I had inhalers athome and kept giving myself treatmenst (under phone supervision of my doc). I have known since I was a young child I would die by drowning, always thought it meant water until the last few yrs when I've seen enough people die from gunky lungs.

Interesting info out about 1973 Hong Kong flu. Looks like probably H3N2
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no2/snacken.htm


http://www.sciencecentric.com/news/article.php?q=09041612-prenatal-exposure-hong-kong-flu-associated-with-reduced-intelligence-adulthood

The results showed that the mean intelligence score increased in every birth year from 1967 to 1973, except for a downturn in 1970. The intelligence scores of men born in July through October of that year, six to nine months after the main outbreak of the Hong Kong flu in Norway, were lower than the mean values for those born in the same months during the preceding and following years. The mean intelligence score of men born during these months was also lower than the mean score of men born in any other month in 1970, and this trend was not seen in the other years. As the flu outbreak occurred during the winter months, this suggests that exposure during the first three to four months of pregnancy seems to have had the strongest impact on intelligence scores.

'This is the first report of a possible association between prenatal exposure to an influenza virus epidemic and the mean level of intelligence in the general population,' says Dr Willy Eriksen of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, co-author of the study. The authors note that other types of maternal infections during pregnancy such as rubella, varicella, cytomegalovirus and toxoplasmosis may cause central nervous system abnormalities and cognitive delay in offspring. In these cases, more severe damage to the foetal brain also tends to occur during the first trimester.

There are several possible explanations for the results shown in the study. It may be that exposure to the influenza virus interfered with the cerebral development of the foetus, as has been shown in laboratory animals. Also, some influenza virus strains, including the Hong Kong flu virus, can cross the placental barrier, so it is possible that some foetuses suffered a cerebral infection. It may also be that a maternal infection during pregnancy has an effect on the foetal brain through maternal immune response or high body temperature, or through medication used to treat infections....
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:53 PM
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70. Thanks for YOUR reply. Interesting that we've both had a stupid anonymous virus.
Like you, I had inhalers at home -- I even had a nebulizer, but I had reached a point where my bronchials were so closed up that I couldn't inhale well enough for it to do anything. It took two or three injections of prednisone to finally stop me gasping for air (I was kind of freaking out, so my memory's a little fuzzy on those first few minutes in the emergency room).

Coincidentally, drowning was always my greatest fear as a kid. Like you, I've come to realize that it doesn't require immersion in water. :scared:

Here's hoping we can keep breathing for a good long time. :toast:

sw
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:04 PM
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56. The "stomach" flu is not in anyway related to the influenza virus.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:39 PM
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57. :)
I know. Believe me, I know and rant about it all the time to people. I was trying to get a sense of not only who has had a bug, but if they consider gi stuff "flu".
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:26 PM
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80. Well...my reaction was - some uninformed person put the poll together.
Is it worth my time to correct him or her?
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:57 PM
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60. While that's normally true, according to the CDC, some people diagnosed with the Swine flu
have reported having stomach flu symptoms.

What are the symptoms of swine flu in humans?
The symptoms of swine flu in people are expected to be similar to the symptoms of regular human seasonal influenza and include fever, lethargy, lack of appetite and coughing. Some people with swine flu also have reported runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/swineflu/key_facts.htm

Flu symptoms may include fever, coughing, sore throat, runny or stuffy nose, headaches, body aches, chills and fatigue. In H1N1 (Swine) flu infection, vomiting and diarrhea may also occur.

http://www.flu.gov/individualfamily/about/index.html
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:39 PM
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81. The flu often has symptoms that include nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.
That doesn't mean it is the stomach "flu" which isn't related to the flu and usually only last 24 to 48 hours.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 06:48 AM
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89. I realized later that you were correcting the op.
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 07:08 AM by Blue Diadem
I misunderstood your post, thinking you were saying that the symptoms don't occur at all with the flu.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:22 AM
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93. No worries.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:01 PM
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61. Thanks for pointing that out.
I hate it when people say they've had "stomach flu." I think, "Oh really? And what, pray tell, is that? Salmonella?"
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #56
66. I posted before I read the thread. Glad you caught that too.
I wish people would learn to wash their hands.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:14 PM
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68. THANK YOU! That drives me nuts! So do people who call all colds "flu" and
people who think the vaccine gave them the flu. :banghead:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:42 PM
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71. Me too. People who say they got "the flu" (bad diarrhea) from the vx drive me nuts
"I got the shot and STILL had stomach flu". argh
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:26 PM
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103. I think you can still get a different strain of flu than the 3? strains that they
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 04:28 PM by tigereye
combine to make up the shot.

(my tai -chi teacher is a chiropractor and amateur epidemiologist. He loves to talk about flu strains and vaccines... at great length. ) This is what he told us.



edited since I misread your post about the stomach virus vs. flu symptoms... whoops.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:51 AM
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114. Yes, there are many strains of influenza and only a few in a vaccine.
They try to predict what the most likely ones will be and make a vaccine around that. Sometimes they get it right on, sometimes they miss and a different type (or 2 or 3 or more) pass through.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:01 PM
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62. I had a bad one two years ago.
I got it the day after I was exposed to it. I was never so sick or so wiped out for so long in all my life. I think the cough alone lasted 3 months.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:08 PM
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63. No illness for at least 8 years other than one incident in 2005.
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 03:26 PM by Grinchie
I somehow contracted a Rat lungworm parasite in Hawaii back them, and I truly thought I was going to die. The doctors were not able to identify it, and the medications for the tortuous pain nearly killed me. It was not until I said ENOUGH to all the drugs and cleaned out my system of the pain killers did my body start healing from the damage the parasite caused while treveling though my back muscles.

3 years later, this parasite is noe totally acknowledged in Hawaii as many other people have become afflicted with this sudden onset, heretofore unknown tropical disease have come for and the organism identified, along with its lifecycle and infection vectors. I consider myself very lucky to have recovered from this almost fully, as I went from totally healthy to completely disabled overnight. The symptoms lasted 8 months.

I went from 10 hours a day as a Farmer, Forester and Land Manager to almost nearly bedridden in one day. I had numerous tests and MRI's, and I discovered that I had broken my back 7 years earlier which had healed and given me no problems, but they used that as the so called cause of my pain and disability. The doctor said "You work too hard and your back wore out". It was a lie. It was his best guess, and didn't have any basis in fact.

For those traveling to Hawaii. Make sure you read up on the Rat Lungworm Parasite. This is a nasty little complex organism that is very widespread now..

P.S.

Edit to add that I've never had a flu shot in my lifetime. I will never willingly submit to a flu shot vaccination, and after researching Pasteur and and Antonne Bechamp, I am currently in the Antonne Bechamp school of biology, along with all the other suppressed inventions that have cured cancer, destroyed pathogens and demonstrated the biological effectivenes of Bioelectrical stimulus over the years.

All the people in the Vaccine school are sold on the idea that their is a drug for everything and dismiss the bodies capability for healing itself. They have bought in to the myth that Vaccines actually work the way they say they do. In my opinion, it's the Pharceutical Industry's and Governments way to providing a high power Placebo to the fearful masses in order to shave a few more days of labor out of them.

What people don't realize is that about the same time, quaility of life and sanitation improved dramatically, and people are too stupid to put a healthy clean environment and lack of disease together. Of course you are going to have disease if people are living in filthy, crowded conditions, lack adequate nourishment or clean water. That goes without saying. What the Pharmaceutical companies did was buy time for the Government to clean up conditions and take the credit, meanwhile creating a market on a technique that has very little scientific study regarding the side effects of vaccinantions.

For a country as heavily vaccinated as the United States, you'd think that we'd have better overall health, but the fact of the matter is that we have more chronic illness than any other country in the world. We have a huge population of Morbidly obese, barely functional retards that can't think further than the next meal or mortgage payment, if that.

Our children are undergoing an Epidemic of Autism, and the educators in our schools are up against a brick wall when it comes to ADHD and developmental illness, and the Government tries to say that this is normal... and Saddle it on the parent to deal with for the rest of their lives.

You wonder why they fight Universal Health Care so much? Well this is the reason.. America is one sick puppy.




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ccinamon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:09 PM
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64. last case of flu was mild...12 to 15 years ago...
can't remember...I'm more likely to have an allergy attack and bronchitis than the flu
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:12 PM
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65. Stomach "flu" is not correct. It is NOT the flu.
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 04:12 PM by mamaleah
Vomiting and diarrhea are part of Norovirus. It's not respiratory like influenza. It's passed via the fecal oral route. So next time you are puking and pissing out your ass, blame some pig out there that could not be bothered to wash his or her hands before shaking yours or making your salad at the restaurant.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:45 PM
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72. I am very glad that so many posters have said this. seriously
One of the reasons I posted this was to see who called gi stuff "flu" when it is norovirus, food poisoning, or some other type of thing. While there can be a gi component to influenza, that is usually not the major focus of it, rather respiratory.

Thank you for knowing this. Seriously. Makes me nuts to continually educate people and have them look at me blankly. I had this happen with in-laws, the blank look after I told them to wash their hands better before doing anything with food after they c/o having "stomach flu" several times.

Flu is influenza.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:19 PM
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74. The're the same folks who think you can get sick from a change in the weather.
or going outside with wet hair. :banghead:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:45 PM
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75. Indeed. Getting sick during "indoor" time of yr is only due to weather, not to people gathering insi
inside around each other. If you go out with wet hair you will get cold, then catch cold. Why do you think they named it a "cold"?

When fall comes and the infectitoriums go back into business (schools), and people start gathering inside closer to one another again, best thing to do is get the hell outside, away from people, into non-coughed/sneezed in air. And wash your hands, etc.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:01 PM
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79. People also do not know that you shed the virus in your stool for weeks after.
Just because you are not actively vomiting, are nauseated, or having diarrhea does not mean the virus has totally left your system. This is where the majority of "food poisonings" in restaurants occur. Employee A had the virus, came back to work after a couple of days and feels fine. He just does not know he is still shedding virus particles. He also has terrible hygiene and just made your caesar salad. Ewwww. 24-48 hour later you are head first in the toilet and are convinced it was the chicken, but it was more than likely the salad made by Mr I Failed Basic Hygiene in Kindergarten.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:30 PM
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104. I think a lot of folks simply call it all "flu" like one big catch-all


:shrug:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:55 AM
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115. They do, which leads to some serious misunderstandings re influenza vaccines.
If you get gastrointestinal upset, why get a flu vaccine since you get the flu anyway?

I spend a fair amount of nursing rants trying to explain that the flu vaccine is for the (primarily) respiratory disease called influenza, not for the gi diseases called norovirus or food poisoning.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:13 PM
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67. Long bong?
I don't remember the last time I had the flu..

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:47 PM
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73. No flu for 12 years--no flu shots, either. FWIW. n/t
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:52 PM
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76. No flu ....
I am religious about taking flu shots. I have MS, and I have gotten pneumonia four times in years when I have had the flu. My lungs are all scarred, so I have to be very careful. Right now I'm biting on it because my Doctor has no flu vaccine (I mean regular vaccine) and my pharmacy sold out of it while I was waiting for my Doctor.

Hopefully I can find some somewhere, because my husband needs it badly too. He was warned that if he caught flu, or any other systemic infection the MRSA he had last year could come back with a vengeance. Considering what he went through, I don't know if he could survive.

Where is the flu vaccine anyway? They promised ample supplies; enough for everyone. I'm not even talking swine flu, I'm talking regular garden variety influenza like we see every year.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #76
116. Where in the world are you located? I might have some ideas. We have plenty seasonal influenza vx
where I am.

Could be people are taking this to heart this yr. If you want to post or pm even a state, might be able to help come up with some ideas where/how to get it.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:55 PM
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77. I didn't have flu till my twenties
I was part of an epidemiological study by the University of Washington medical school as a kid; I got some kind of super-duper flu shot and had to have a blood draw four times a year to look for flu antibodies in my bloodstream. NOT fun, but the resistance worked for a long time afterwards.

The last time I had the flu, I thought I was dying.

We're getting the "routine" shot, and I'm hoping there will be enough vaccine for DH to get the swine flu shot. He's at a certain very large software company right now. They're already having problems with employees coming to work sick with the garden variety flu. :mad: Considering the fact they have very good health insurance and sick leave, I wish they'd stay the hell home.
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diamidue Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:56 PM
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78. No flu in decades. And definitely no flu shots. n/t
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:05 PM
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83. Voted 'no flu'
Since the few times I've been sick in recent years have had more cold-like symptoms than flu-like ones. Stuffy sinus's, slight elevation of temperature, etc. I really don't think it was 'flu' just a goddamn cold.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:06 PM
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84. i haven't had the flu since i started getting flu shots over a decade ago.
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 10:07 PM by dysfunctional press
before that, i used to get it about every other year.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:05 AM
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86. Last year was awful for me.
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 12:06 AM by laundry_queen
Started off with Norovirus (on the eve of the election, I was so mad, I was stuck in the bathroom unable to watch the run up!!), followed up with a 'mild' flu that turned into weeks and weeks of coughing until I ended up taking myself to the ER when I was coughing so hard I was vomiting and couldn't get a breath in. I have (well had) mild asthma and my inhaler was useless. I was diagnosed with bronchitis and bronchiospasms (?) had some breathing treatments and was put on some antibiotics. This little bout with the flu made my 'mild' asthma turn into uncontrolled asthma and I ended up on inhaled steroids afterward, just to control it. I had about 2 weeks around Christmas where I felt much better. Then I got hit with the worst Strep throat I have ever experienced. I knew it was Strep just from what my tonsils looked like. Antibiotics cured that. Did I mention I have 4 kids and at once time or another, ALL winter long, someone was sick. The kids got another stomach virus in February that I managed to avoid.

I have had a flu shot before - in High School, shortly after first being diagnosed with asthma after a rough winter of flu/bronchitis. I didn't get sick for years after that. I'm very cautious about vaccines (we delay/do individual shots with each child) but this year we will ALL be getting the H1N1 and the seasonal. My FIL is currently on dialysis and my MIL has lung disease. So I don't want to get them sick and I don't want to end up in the ER again either. Because of my previous experience with the flu shot I'm not worried. I'm more worried at the moment that my doctor doesn't expect the seasonal vaccine until the end of this month and has no clue when he's going to get the H1N1 vaccine. I hope we can be ok until then.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:19 AM
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87. ai yai yai yai yai. I hope this winter will be better for you.
I get irked by those who claim flu deaths are so low because, after all, people die of pneumonia, NOT influenza. Like you did, people get flu, then bronchitis, which sets off asthma, which then can get you pneumonia since your aveoli aren't getting well aerated.

I am glad you got through it and hope you have a better yr this yr. What a nasty winter.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:17 AM
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92. Exactly.
My dr says I still have air trapping in my lungs. So this year I'm at higher risk. I'm nervous. Luckily, I'm in Canada so I don't have to worry about the insurance side of it (other than prescriptions - I don't have coverage there and that can get costly). I don't know how you Americans deal with it.
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conflictgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 01:34 AM
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88. No influenza, no flu shots, norovirus a few times though.
nt
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:40 AM
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90. Flu once in the past 30 years, no flu shots for 35 years
Bad aches, some fever, lots of coughing, general weakness (the weakness took several weeks to go away, but then I got some pneumonia complications at tail end of flu and I have asthma)
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:33 AM
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94. Neither...
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 11:39 AM by BolivarianHero
I've had a few bad colds, I've vomited from mild alcohol poisoning, and I had mild food poisoning, likely from chicken at a grocery store.

Stomach bugs popularly known as the "stomach flu" have nothing to do with influenza ... True influenza produces mild-to-moderate respiratory problems, cold-like symptoms, fever (high in severe cases), head and body aches, and severe malaise. People who are weak or immunocompromized can die from secondary infection, while people who are healthy, when facing severe strains of influenza for which they have not developed partial or full immunity, can in extremely rare cases die from a cytokine storm, a form of immune system overreaction.

I don't know if I've ever had true influenza, but I can't say with certainty as there can be substantial overlap between a bad cold (which I've had plenty of), a mild-to-moderate flu, and viral pneumonia.
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MidwestRick Donating Member (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:33 AM
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95. None
*knocks wood*
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WCIL Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:40 PM
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96. I have never had the flu
I was offered, and took, a free flu shot 3 years ago at the school I was volunteering at but that is the only time I have taken the flu vaccine. As I get older and flirt with allergy-induced asthma, I probably should get a flu shot, but I have been lucky so far.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 02:41 PM
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97. I've had the Rockin' pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu, does that count? nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 02:45 PM
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98. I've had some form of it for about a week now - mild, though
It's making the rounds where I work - lots of people out with it. Fortunately no 'scary' cases that I've aware of.
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oedura Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 03:55 PM
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99. I've only had it once, and that was around 30 years ago. (nt)
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 03:56 PM
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100. Never had the flu. n/t
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 04:00 PM
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101. The last time I had the flu was 15 years ago
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 04:02 PM by lunatica
It was the last time my mother had the flu too, so maybe it gave us immunity after that. She used to get it all the time but hasn't in quite a few years. It was a real doozy though. I thought we were going to die after a couple of weeks of not being able to eat because we were so sick. I wanted to die.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:05 PM
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109. I've had pneumonia and/or pleurisy almost every year for the past 5 years at least
And sometimes twice in a year.

Just got it again, but now I know the symptoms and caught it early.

Sometimes it comes on like the flu, very fast, high fever, sharp pains; other times, it's like a constant ache after almost no other symptoms but fatigue.

Weird.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:47 PM
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111. I get neither flu nor flu shots. nt
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:39 AM
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117. I'm 32 and have never had the flu
Weird, huh? I used to get strep throat once or twice a year, but honestly, I haven't been sick in years. When I got the flu shot a few weeks ago, I ran a 100degree fever for a few hours. That's the sickest I've felt.

When I do get sick, it's stomach related, as a result of an intestinal parasite I got in Mexico. But there's no fever or anything associated with that.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:56 AM
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118. Confirmed swine flu..
very mild. Son also had it and his illness was slightly more severe and prolonged.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 02:39 AM
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124. A friend of ours reported today that she had the flu...
Lasted 3 days and she is now recovered. 69 Years old. Didn't bother going to the Hospital, so can't tell you what stain is was, other than it was mild seasonal flu.

She reported that the whole family had it and recovered.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 02:52 AM
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125. I am not sure
I usually have a couple of what I call colds every year. Are they really the flu? i call them 3 stage colds. Stage one is the sore throat stage. I treat that with butterscotch candies, vitamin C, and soup and other hot meals. It is that treatment that probably leads to stage 2 - runny nose stage. This I treat with my allergy medicine, an anti-histamine. Finally there is the cough stage, starting with a tight cough and then when the cough loosens up it is almost over. There is some achiness in there too.

As for digestive troubles, those too are periodic, sometimes endemic, although they seem to be less so after Activia.

As for temperature, I never take it. I don't even own a thermometer of that type. Probably I should get one since Doctors seem to rely heavily on those as a barometer of health.
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