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sl8 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:27 PM
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New Intelligence Squared U.S. debate - "Can The U.S. Succeed In Afghanistan, Pakistan?"
As the Obama administration considers its options in Afghanistan — especially whether to send more troops — a more fundamental question continues to be raised about the conflict there: Is the United States doomed to fail in Afghanistan, as others have failed before?

And what about the other half of the so-called AfPak strategy — Pakistan, with its nuclear arsenal? The United States is pressuring the Pakistani military to root out al-Qaida and Taliban militants, but a difficult road lies ahead. Can the United States possibly find success in the region?

A panel of experts took on that topic in the latest Intelligence Squared U.S. debate. Three experts argued for the motion "America Cannot and Will Not Succeed in Afghanistan/Pakistan," and three argued against in the Oxford-style debate at New York University's Skirball Center for the Performing Arts.
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113735039

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sl8 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 06:58 PM
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1. Sound bite - Afghanistan : renovating a low budget, terrorist motel
Ralph Peters:

"... Afghanistan was a low budget, terrorist motel. So the Feds raid the motel, kill some of the bad guys, and instead of going after the ones who escape, we decide to renovate the motel."
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:21 PM
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2. My question is "Can the United States
succeed at home?" The store is being robbed here at home and we are worried about some bad boy tribesmen, riding around on horses, selling Poppies?

How is that protecting our freedom?
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sl8 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:51 PM
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3. I'm the wrong person to ask.
My rule of thumb for applying military force is, "would I give up my life to accomplish this goal?", because we're certainly sending someone to give up their life for these military excursions, and I guess that their lives are worth at least as much as mine. I'm responsible for sending them there, too, just as much as every American is.

More to the point, you've a good question and I can't answer it. Maybe someone else here at DU can.

You might want to leave a comment at the web site.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 07:52 PM
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4. Define "succeed" in a more definitive way than "leave without looking like losers".
Then we can talk.
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