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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:07 PM
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BREAKING NEWS: Colorado sheriff says criminal charges will be filed in 'balloon boy' case
On MSNBC...No story yet.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:09 PM
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1. Criminal charges? Hmmm !!!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:10 PM
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2. Waste more time & money on them, brilliant
Let DFS help them become a productive family, that's the best thing for everybody concerned.

I cannot believe the vengeance some people have for these people.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:20 PM
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9. They pulled a hoax for publicity. They NEED to be prosecuted.
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 08:20 PM by kestrel91316
They get a pass because......WHY??? They cost the state and the feds quite a lot of money. The way you ensure they will never try this crap again is by PUNISHING THEM.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:26 PM
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12. Tar and feathers and pitchforks, Oh My!
When did you become such an advocate for a punitive justice system?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:52 PM
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15. lol. nt
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hokies Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:45 AM
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34. Don't forget the torches too!
:rofl:
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:14 AM
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26. sure, and your head need more air. pump it up, dude
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:51 AM
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39. If they are guilty they will have to pay resitution which will cover some of the cost.
We can't let idiots like this go unpunished because some people don't want to see them on the news. Call your news network and tell them not to report on it...but let the law do it's job.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:22 AM
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49. +1
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Zix Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:11 PM
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3. Juicy stuff!

But what for, I wonder?
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:11 PM
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4. That didn't take long.
One of the kids must have cracked under questioning today.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:13 PM
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5. I would rather see them send the nutjob family a big fat bill
This "rescue" cost the state money, and now the criminal charges will cost the state more. Just send them a bill.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:58 AM
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41. They can't send him a bill unless they prove a crime....
I don't even care about the hoax...he has invented a whole new form of child abuse. He has continuously put his children in dangerous positions and now he's teaching them to lie. If he goes to prison his six year old will grow up knowing HE put his dad in jail with his statement to CNN. This guy is screwing with young and impressionable minds. That is immoral and criminal.
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:13 PM
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6. Well it was a hoax.....
Edited on Sat Oct-17-09 08:14 PM by Joe the Liberal
looks like the parents plan didn't go as smoothly as they had hoped.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:15 PM
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7. Link.
The Larimer County Sheriff says criminal charges are likely expected to be filed against Richard Heene.

Heene is the Fort Collins man who reported his 6-year-old son missing in a helium-filled balloon on Thursday.

The sheriff did not give specific charges, but said they would likely be a class 3 misdemeanor, which could be false reporting.

The sheriff's office is working on getting a search warrant to search the Heene home and is planning a news conference Sunday morning.


http://cbs4denver.com/local/boy.balloon.colorado.2.1255167.html

BTW, it was very nice of them to announce that they're seeking a search warrant. :eyes:
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:18 PM
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8. I guess there won't be a press conference tonight :D n/t
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:20 PM
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10. Good start nt
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:24 PM
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11. "no one in the family will be arrested."
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:37 PM
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22. They only anticipate misdemeanor charges.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 11:00 PM
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24. This could be a dangerous situation for the wife and kids
...If they were the ones who admitted that it was a hoax to Law Enforcement. Richard Heene seems like a very dangerous man.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:03 AM
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42. I saw the most recent "Wife Swap" they were on.
The wife is very submissive and totally under his thumb, but I can't imagine her lying under oath. I wouldn't be surprised if he let HER think the boy was in the balloon at first, just to get an accurate reaction on the 911 call.
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condoleeza Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:49 PM
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13. The fact that this was aired live by MSNBC and Richard didn't say anything about
the section that the boy would have been in being missing speaks volumes. Find it hard to imagine he wasn't watching it live. Jesus, what stupid people to think they could pull ??? off? Perfect for reality TV. What percentage of US citizens are idiots anyway? Apparently quite a few. Nothing was right about this from the first minute.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:33 AM
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52. Thank you
I heard about this story after the fact. It was after they figured out the kid was in the attic. I saw the video of that thing flying in the air and I kept wondering where in the hell would the kid go? What the hell is wrong with some of the people in this country?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 08:52 PM
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14. And Bush and Cheney are still walking free
after lying their way into Iraq on live TV.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:14 PM
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17. +1
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:29 PM
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20. And losing billions of dollars
and stealing trillions more.

Some desperate family tries for their 15 minutes and that's whose head we scream for. And then complain that the country is so fucked up. :eyes:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:35 AM
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33. Yep but remember
they punked M$Greedia. That is a no-no. :sarcasm:
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:06 AM
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43. That doesn't mean that everyone gets free reign to lie.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:11 PM
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16. Rush Limbaugh Lies and Manipulates the media every day....
.... how come they don't bring charges against Rush Limbaugh?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:36 PM
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21. He's got a comedy show. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:17 PM
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18. This is just to set the stage
for the state to seek civil damages.

All state budgets are in trouble and if they can recoup the costs of this phony rescue, so be it
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:17 PM
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19. This is just to set the stage
for the state to seek civil damages.

All state budgets are in trouble and if they can recoup the costs of this phony rescue, so be it
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 09:38 PM
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23. Good! It's about time
they sent Stan the Coffee guy, er I mean Mr. Heene to jail already.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-17-09 11:12 PM
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25. I'd like to see them DA get "false reporting" charges to stick.
Boy and balloon vanished at the same time; reasonable assumption that boy was in balloon. Police search house *twice* and fail to find boy who is unbeknown to anyone hiding in the attic.

The best thing to do is let this one slip away into obscurity. Filing any charges will result in Mr. & Mrs. Publicity-Seekers getting a nice public circus trial, and I don't think anyone wants that.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:27 AM
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27. I'd like to see the DA replaced if he's stupid enough to file charges
1) POLICE incompetence! They didn't search the house? Idiots. Even a clueless idiot
would know that if the kid were in the house he would be hiding or unconscious. Fire
the lot of them starting with the chief, lots of intelligent people out there need a jobs.

2) The so called "hoax" based on a (deliberately) misreported quote from the kid
saying it was for the "show" was completely explained when the omitted context
that the kid was referring to showing reporters where he hid.

3) I wonder if they are planning to sue Faux for the defamatory "error". I figure
$20 million would be a fair settlement from Faux, given what they pay Billious Bill.

If charges are filed, the DA better have Jesus as an accusatory witness,
that's all I'm saying.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:20 AM
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44. It's not that simple.....
The boy "apparently" was hiding in the attic of the garage. The reason the police didn't search the attic was because there was NO WAY the boy could have gotten up there BY HIMSELF. The statement the boy made was bad enough, but the reaction to the statement by both parents told the whole story. The dad has continuously reacted in ways that a guilty man reacts. I guess he should have taken acting lessons if he wanted to be on TV so bad. No parent who's child is missing is going to call the FAA and TV station 20 minutes BEFORE calling 911. Calling those places would get you a receptionist and you'd have to go through a lot of channels before getting to talk to someone who can actually help you. 911 would be on it immediately. There is a lot more evidence.

To me the worst of it is what this man has put his children through in he egotistic attempt to be in the lime light. The only show I want to see him on is MSNBC'S "Lock Down"!!!!
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:14 AM
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46. There is always "more". What we know (
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 10:17 AM by Piewhacket
that MSM is in lynch mob mode to maintain the story, they are
reporting half-facts and made up inflammatory facts to accomplish
that. WE also know that when the lynch mob relies on notorious
liars (MSM) for their 'fair and balanced' reporting they always
ends up lynching the wrong guy.

Just for example,

IOW I don't believe there was NO WAY the boy could have got in
the attic himself. In fact I can immediately think of at least
one way it could have happened. Those who sieze upon one fact
while willfully ignoring plausible alternatives
are not merely "biased", they are also frequently wrong.

IOW I don't accept subjective evidence that he "acted guilty" as
competent evidence someone is guilty. Actually, I regard people
who think they are human lie detectors, or that others can be,
as mentally unstable and possibly dangerous.

What people reasonably do depends on circumstances evident at
the time. A pilotless balloon is a grave danger to air navigation
and MUST be immediately reported TO THE FAA. Thats the LAW!
Half-baked conjecture about the circumstances of what he knew when and
what was reasonable to have done, is just inflammatory lynch
mobbery by the MSM.

IN ADDITION, the standard of proof in a criminal case is 'beyond
a reasonable doubt'. Here what is evident is there is doubt,
beyond any doubt. The case is doubtful and shouldn't be filed.

FINALLY, RichGirl, are you really rich?
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:41 AM
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28. Balloon boy father supposedly left a comment at TMZ
9. This is Richard. I may not have cable but I do have the internet and I must say I am alarmed at some of the things coming out. Any other inquiries are to be made to my spokesman who I will introduce tomorrow.

I came across this site and this is unreal.

- First of all, this was not a hoax. Falcon WAS missing when the balloon lifted off. Why would we make a hoax with out kid?

- When Falcon was talking about the show, this is what happened: Earlier in the day when we were working on this craft, I told Falcon that someday we would be famous and have our own show and when that happened, he would have to hide in the attic to escape his fans. Are we clear?

- This guy claiming to have worked for me was a fraud. Yes, he will show you my handwriting where I allegedly talk about a plan but it was all a joke at the time.

- Any other questions regarding this incident will be forwarded to my spokesman who I will introduce tomorrow. I will answer more questions tonight.

and please don't come within 200 meters of my house. Read the note.

Yours truly,
Richard Heene


This guy is a piece of work...

I don't read TMZ but caught this through Gawker:
http://gawker.com/5384117/colorado-sheriff-charges-likely-being-pressed-against-balloon-boy-dad-richard-heene
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:55 AM
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29. Before, I just thought it might be a hoax
After reading that message from Heene on TMZ, I'm convinced that it was.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:22 AM
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30. Falcon may have gone "missing" for 5 minutes tops, and then his dad had a "bright" idea
to run with the storyline (which was cool by the way).

At first I was furious with him, but now I just feel sorry for him. He's an unemployed wannabe actor/director/scientist and he needs a big break.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:25 AM
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45. I don't care what this idiot does...but using his kids is unexceptable.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:20 AM
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48. He needs therapy and medication
But other than that, that's how I see him too. The best thing for those kids would be a superb family therapist.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:29 AM
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50. What he needs is serious cognative therapy
and to NOT be around his own kids until a panel of experts figure he will no longer use them to as a means of getting fixes for his need for TV time.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:02 AM
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31. The whole story is a pretty sad statement on society.
We're in a culture where all you have to do to be famous anymore is make the news and find someone willing to put you on tv. Whether you're popping out more kids than anyone can honestly take care of, making a sex tape, getting fat and losing weight, etc., it's bizarre and pathetic what we are willing to pay attention to. It's also sad that fame for any reason has become the new American dream.
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:53 AM
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35. Yep. I think some newspeople need to be fired, too...
WHY was this news? Perhaps the local news would have been interested but nationally? It really is sad.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:18 AM
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47. It was news because we were interested.
It's still news, because we're still interested. We keep clicking links and watching reports.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:25 AM
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32. Does anyone else get the impression that local law enforcement is dumb as a bag of hammers?
First they say they didn't think it was a hoax, then they say he's probably going to be charged, but they don't name the charge, but if it is a hoax it will probably be a misdemeanor, but that hardly seems serious enough to warrant the massive amount of manpower we are expending, so we're looking into other charges, but we don't know what they might be, but we might get the FAA involved and see if they have any rabbits they can pull out of their hat.

Am I missing anything here?
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 06:32 AM
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37. I think they're more lazy
I think they did believe it was a hoax but didn't feel like doing anything about it and that it took the public outcry to force them to.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 05:57 AM
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36. What If Somebody Got Hurt Attempting A Rescue?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:41 AM
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38. . . .

'There are two (2) things in the universe that are truly abundant: Hydrogen and stupidity.' -Frank Zappa
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 07:58 AM
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40. Sheriff: Charges will be filed in balloon saga (AP via NPR)
FORT COLLINS, Colo. October 18, 2009, 07:09 am ET

... Sheriff Jim Alderden didn't say who would be charged or what the charges would be. His deputies later showed up at the Heene's Fort Collins home with a search warrant and at least three of them began a search. Sgt. Ian Stewart declined so say what they were after.

Alderden on Saturday didn't call Thursday's hours-long drama a hoax, but he expressed disappointment that he couldn't level more serious charges in the incident, which sent police and the military scrambling to save young Falcon Heene as millions of worried television viewers watched.

"We were looking at Class 3 misdemeanor, which hardly seems serious enough given the circumstances," Alderden said. "We are talking to the district attorney, federal officials to see if perhaps there aren't additional federal charges that are appropriate in this circumstance" ...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113908194&ps=cprs
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:23 AM
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51. After the search warrant story
a poster who sounds local or knows someone inside the investigation left the following comments:

37. Sources from within the Sheriff's Department have confirmed that the boys will be charged (remember he said charges AGAINST THE HEENE FAMILY). They repeatedly lied to police and emergency responders during the search. Specifically: "making false statements to law enforcement in the course of an investigation, and obstruction of justice. The office will claim they intend to charge them as adults, in an attempt to calm the local outcry. They will be charged as juveniles and placed into protective custody. This is a faster remedy that waiting for CPS to investigate if the general Heene lifestyle of storm chasing is dangerous for the kids. It will also pacify the public. It will be done as soon as the papers are finished being drafted, e.g ASAP. More to come! I hope this doesn't turn into a murder suicide thing, I really do.

Posted at 6:47AM on Oct 18th 2009 by 2smart4this

...

39. Update: Various members of the extended Heene family have been contacted by the Sheriff's office in an attempt to secure temporary supervision of the 3 boys after they are all arrested. None of the extended family members have been willing to accept the responsibility. Our inside source spoke despite not being authorized to comment on the case, under the condition of anonymity. The reasons the family gave were that the boys were impossible to control and that they didn't want to be a part of the spectacle this story has become. Some family members cited the former, some the latter, some both. The boys will be held in juvenile detention, not foster care, since they are being considered willing participants and will be accused criminals, not victims.

Posted at 7:04AM on Oct 18th 2009 by 2smart4this

...

43. UPDATE: According to various sources with direct knowledge of the investigations' progress--The parents did not have a lawyer accompany the children while they were questioned for several hours down at the station. Instead they accepted the generous offer of free babysitting by the Sheriff's office! Various statements made by the children during this long "visit" were included in their arrest warrants, currently being drafted. The officers selected were chosen for their casual and fun loving demeanor. The kids trusted them and played with them, speaking freely ("bragging") about the whole ordeal!

Posted at 7:50AM on Oct 18th 2009 by 2smart4this


http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/18/heene-balloon-boy-cops-search-warrant/3#comments


I have no idea if they'd actually charge the kids, but judging by the Wife Swap bits I saw on Youtube, they really are three out of control hellions (dropping the f-bomb, giving the random finger, etc) and I don't find it difficult for 1 second to believe that no one in the family would want to take them on.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:38 AM
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53. Fine with me. If this is cast in enough negative light, the dad and family
won't get to profit off of it with TV/book deals.
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