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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:44 PM
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Two Secret Service Agents shot accidentally by fellow officer...
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1744505020070417

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two Secret Service officers were injured on Tuesday after a gun held by another Secret Service officer accidentally fired inside the White House gate, according to a spokesman, Darrin Blackford.

Their injuries are non-life threatening, the spokesman said.

One officer suffered a shrapnel wound to the face, and the other was wounded in the leg.

They were taken to George Washington Hospital.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:45 PM
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1. But we are so much safer now
than we were then.

And guns are good, look at how these experts prove it.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:45 PM
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2. .
:tinfoilhat:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:46 PM
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3. Went through the guys leg and probably ricocheted into the other
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:46 PM
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4. So why were the Secret Service guns unholstered?
These guys don't make those kinds of mistakes. They just don't.
I wonder what REALLY happened?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:49 PM
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10. There was a suspicious package incident across the street at the time..
don't know if that had something to do with it.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:47 PM
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5. Barney, Barney, Barney...............n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:47 PM
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6. Cheney is Secret Service now, eh? eom
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:49 PM
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11. We need a button to nominate for the DUzzy awards
you post made me spit my coffee all over the place.

:rofl:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:04 PM
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26. I've been trying to get one! n/t
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:49 PM
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12. Damn, you beat me!
n/t
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:48 PM
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7. Ooops
I should call my cousin and see if he is ok..lol.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:49 PM
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8. Screw the tinhat. There's more here than just a simple accidental shooting.
Why was the gun unholstered?

If accidental, then why multiple shots?

I'm smelling a rotten cover story...

J
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:50 PM
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14. Exactly.
There is something very wrong about this story. It goes against procedure.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:53 PM
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17. The gun being unholstered needs an explanation, I agree.
I'm not sure if there were multiple shots or not however. Depending on what the bullet hit first it is possible one shot could have caused both injuries.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:13 PM
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24. Did this happen before or after the Chimp left for VA?
If it happened after the Chimp left, who was in the White House at the time? Cheney?

J
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:15 PM
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27. It could be an accidential discharge
while the gun was holstered (but the safety was off) and that one bullet could have hit the concrete causing the concrete to fly and hit the one SS agent in the face and then it lodged in the other agent's leg.

It all could have happened with the gun in a holster and by sheer dumb luck.

That is why guns are so friggin dangerous, even the well trained can make a mistake.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:49 PM
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9. I wonder why Cheney was pretending to be Secret Service?
n/a
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:50 PM
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13. Wasn't the SS agent who fired the gun on anti-depressants?
:eyes:
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:51 PM
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15. I believe that only police should have guns to protect me.
Wait...nevermind.
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:52 PM
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16. More proof...
That cops, military and security personnel are more responsible and skilled with firearms than a civilian could ever hope to be, therefore they are the only ones who can be trusted with guns.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:59 PM
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18. This is a fairly serious story with some amusing replies
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 03:00 PM by Horse with no Name
However, Secret Service does NOT make mistakes like this.
WHY were their guns unholstered?
That is very important because they don't walk around with itchy trigger fingers shooting each other, simply because the POTUS could come in the line of fire.
There was an incident of some sort that we aren't being told about.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:04 PM
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23. There're virtually no details
Nothing to explain why the gun was unholstered and I'm not even clear on how many rounds were fired. I want to know what was going on that the was holding his gun in his hand first. Then I want to know how he came to discharge his firearm and how many times.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:23 PM
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29. Agreed that it's a thin article...
I suspect one discharge through a body part, and a ricochet tags second officer.

These were gate guards, Uniformed SS.

Still leaves the question of why the weapon was unholstered or even if it was.

-Hoot
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:26 PM
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25. You raise good questions that need answering.
I hope we get them, but I won't hold my breath.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:00 PM
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19. Written as if the gun fired itself!
". . .a gun held by another Secret Service officer accidentally fired inside the White House gate. . . ." along the lines of "I apologize if some were offended", instead of "I apologize to those I offended."

I wonder if this tortured phrasing came from the White House PR office, or some poorly educated reporter simply doesn't know how to write.

As I expect the NRA would say, guns don't accidentally fire themselves; people accidentally fire guns.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:01 PM
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20. "But, I trained those guys myself..." - Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 03:03 PM by SpiralHawk
"Sheesh. Maybe we should of let Commander AWOL himself train these jokers."

- Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:03 PM
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21. They just lost their White House Assignment.
This is awful for the Agents. :cry:
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:03 PM
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22. Oops! Sorry 'bout that. Oops! Sorry 'bout that too!
Accidentally shot two people?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 04:16 PM
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28. Aren't these guys supposed to be the "Best of the Best"?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:15 PM
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30. Migh-teeee peculiar. Sniff, sniff, snifff....Was Jeff Gannon around?
The Secret Service documented that notiorious republicon male prostitute Jeff Gannon
visited George Bush's White House over 200 times, including some overnights.

Maybe Jeffy the republicon White House Prostitute provoked this case of
"sloppy pistol handling."
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 09:26 PM
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31. "Sloppy pistol handling?" What are you suggesting Spiral Hawk?
Is this more of your George AWOL Bush + notorious republicon male prostitute hijinks fact-based innuendo?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:13 AM
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32. Hey, even the republicons can sometimes add 2 and 2
though they would undoubtedly fudge the sum.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:49 AM
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33. I'm Calling BULLSHIT
I don't know what happened, but this explanation is total bullshit.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:53 AM
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35. "Dude, sometimes a gun is just a gun" - Jeffy Gannon
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 07:53 AM by SpiralHawk
"And then, of course, sometimes its not."

- Jeff Gannon, Official Bush White House Male Prostitute
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:52 AM
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34. Hey! ONCE is an accident; TWICE is a guy gone wild.
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