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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:50 AM
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Jeb Bush: Government should focus on needy rather than creating a security blanket for all of us.
Jeb Bush argues Republicans need to be more welcoming

:rofl:



Media Credit: Jonathan Ewing, Hatchet Photographer



Jeb's got a brand-new 6-point *plan* to revitalize the GOP.

Wait for it. :crazy:

1. 'We can't be "the old white guy party"'...
2. 'We can't get stuck in "the nostalgic good old days.... and there WERE some good old days'......
3. 'We can't just be "the party of NO"'.....
4. 'We must reform education, particularly the use of technology in the classroom'.....
5. 'We need to lead on education, energy, foreign policy and immigration'.....
6. 'We need to re-establish limited government'.....




Kara Dunford writes:


October 22, 2009


....

"You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that in order for a political party to be successful it has to reach out to everyone," Bush said. "In politics, you never win when you say 'us and them.' We need a more welcoming message."
Bush added that his party needs to modernize and embrace 21st ideals and technology.
"I sense that our party is kind of in a nostalgic mode where we look back to the good old days," Bush said. "However good they were, and there were some good days, is completely irrelevant in 2009."

Bush discussed the need for reform in education, particularly the embracement of technology in the classroom. Bush said the Republicans need to lead the charge on education issues, as well as on energy policy, immigration policy and a foreign policy that defends America's interests.

"We just can't be the party of no.

.....

Bush advocated a return to the principals of limited government, something he said President Barack Obama has shifted away from since he took office in January.
"In the last six months, there have been significant changes in the relationship the American people has with their government," Bush said.

Bush expressed the need to limit government spending while poking fun at Vice President Joe Biden, who he described as "the gift that keeps on giving." He said the government should rebuff Biden's belief that America needs to keep spending to avoid going bankrupt, and instead limit federal spending.

"In Washington, that kind of spending makes sense, but around kitchen tables across America, it doesn't make sense," he said. Bush said the percent of the gross domestic product that goes to government spending is "breathtaking," saying the figure is somewhere around 40 percent.

"Those numbers look more like what we typically equate with a European-style government, rather than an American-style that rewards individual achievement and tries to focus on taking care of the most needy, rather than creating a security blanket for all of us," Bush said. "That stifles, in my opinion, innovation and the ability to create more prosperity."


:wtf:


...

"I'm sick of hearing people, particularly in Washington, look at capitalism as a sin. In fact it is our savior for greater prosperity," he added.

.....




And we are sick of hearing from the bottomless pit of your insufferable utterings, JebCrow. God help our children under your version of **educational reform**.


What part of **We don't want whatever it is you are selling** don't you understand?








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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:54 AM
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1. Does he realize that NO ONE CARES what he thinks about anything?
I guess not. He and Newt Gingrich should just pass position papers back and forth.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:10 AM
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6. So true
but appearances must be maintained so the MSM will continue to publicize this shite as if anyone gave a flying f*ck. Nothing to see here, move along.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:56 AM
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24. The Bush "brand" is like an old time peanut company that got salmonella
and killed thousands of people. Even though the factory has been cleaned out and re-inspected and re-opened, no one wants to buy their peanuts anymore even if the "W" label is permanently retired and replaced with the "Jeb" label.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:56 AM
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2. What did he do for the needy in Florida?
That is except create more and give them less.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:15 AM
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8. When asked in 1994 campaign what he would do for Black Floridians: "Probably nothing."
The Liberty City Charter would be the shining school of choice on the hill for inner-city victims of the public schools. Turns out it was just an electoral device and the African-American children inside were just props in a campaign photo-op. You see in 1994 Jeb Bush ran for governor for the first time. He came very close but Lawton Chiles bested him by less than two percentage points. The fact that Bush got only 4% of the Black vote was probably the difference. Jeb realized that when asked during the campaign what a Bush Administration would do for Black Floridians it was unwise to have answered, “Probably nothing.”



More here.




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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:16 AM
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10. Pretty much the same thing his rotten brother did for the needy in Texas.
Create more and give them less. The bu$h family MO.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:44 AM
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21. Well when Terri Schaivo needed him he was there
Mind you she was in a coma and brain dead

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 11:14 AM
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26. GOP memo from Sen. Mel Martinez staff on Schiavo: 'This is "a great political issue" for us'.
Is THAT 'looking out for the needy', Jeb?


Terry Schiavo, RIP. March 31, 2005


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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:59 AM
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3. Newsflash for Jebbie:
Georgie fucked you, so load up the clan, go away, and get over it.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:00 AM
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4. Just think about it.
Jeb is the smartest one in the Bush family. I guess that still makes their average IQ less than average.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:10 AM
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5. If they had their way
99% of us would be needy.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:10 AM
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7. would that education technology involve his brother, neil? eom
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:20 AM
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12. Why, yes it would.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:16 AM
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9. does he realize how much his family fucked up the country
they're doing fine so I guess it's okay with him.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:18 AM
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11. The security blanket is what prevents us from becoming the needy.
I know when he says "innovation" he means another Ponzi scheme like mortgage backed securities.

Yes, Jeb. We want to stifle your innovation.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:20 AM
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13. I'd like him to provide examples of Republicans focusing on the needs of the needy.
I'll wait...
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:23 AM
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14. Trying his best to fake sincerity.
Rumor is he is going to run in 2012.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:28 AM
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16. I think he will run
and I think he'll be the nominee too.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:31 AM
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17. Run Jeb Run
His candidacy will dredge up every foul act perpetrated on the world by the Bush family cartel. Anything that tarnishes the GOP as badly as do the criminal Bushies can only spell doom for any GOPer candidate, not just Jeb. Bring it on!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 11:57 AM
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28. Be careful what you wish for
Nobody thought his idiot brother could get elected either. And of course, he didn't. But with Jeb's help, he was able to steal it.

And if the Bush Crime Family is on the ticket, the electro-fraud machines will be used, you can bank on that.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:22 PM
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32. Good point
and who knows what we will be faced with as a nation come 2012. God forbid we get another Bush rammed down our collective throats.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:28 AM
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15. and by 'needy' he means the top 1%
they 'need' everything. :puke:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:34 AM
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18. If he is Jeb Bush, and he's openning his mouth, you fill in the rest.
That insufferable Son of Privilege has no understanding of the needy, the working or the elderly. And the Silver-Spoon Idiot doesn't even know what a kitchen table is, much less what is being said across it.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:38 AM
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19. Would the 30 Republicans For Rape qualify as 'looking out for the needy'?
What's your answer, Jeb?


Jeff Sessions (R-AL)

Richard Shelby (R-AL)

Jon Kyl (R-AZ)

John McCain (R-AZ)

Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)

Johnny Isakson (R-GA)

Mike Crapo (R-ID)

James Risch (R-ID)

Sam Brownback (R-KS)

Pat Roberts (R-KS)

Jim Bunning (R-KY)

Mitch McConnell (R-KY)

David Vitter (R-LA)

Thad Cochran (R-MS)

Roger Wicker (R-MS)

Kit Bond (R-MO)

Mike Johanns (R-NE)

John Ensign (R-NV)

Judd Gregg (R-NH)

Richard Burr (R-NC)

Tom Coburn (R-OK)

Jim Inhofe (R-OK)

Jim DeMint (R-SC)

Lindsey Graham (R-SC)

John Thune (R-SD)

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

Bob Corker (R-TN)

John Cornyn (R-TX)

John Barrasso (R-WY)

Mike Enzi (R-WY)


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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:13 PM
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31. Good question! Lots of GOP "stars" on the list. /eom
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:41 AM
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20. Don't misunderestimate Jebby..
John Ellis Bush is dead on right on how to revitalize the Republican Party. He WOULD be the most scary opponent we could face in 2012 except that his brother has so trashed the family name that it will take 50 years for another Bush to become President. I only hope that the other Republicans aren't listening to him and keep on going with the Rush Limbaugh, Glenn BecKKK crap till 2012.

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:45 AM
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22. Never let your guard down with this jackal.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:50 AM
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23. What he calls a "security blanket" is what most americans ...
... call a "safety net".
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 11:08 AM
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25. He meant "focus on the greedy"....not needy....nt
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 11:52 AM
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27. technology in the classroom
would that be the google and the cables?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:02 PM
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29. Jeb's 'more technology in the classroom' means taxpayers footing more of Neil's Ignite! COWS.
Bush's Family Profits from 'No Child' Act

Gawsh they are low. "(S)ecurity blanket for all." Sure thing. And in Jebthro, we're talking about the next GOP pretzeldent.

Dirty Money by Jefferson Morley.

"I want to be very wealthy, and I'll be glad to tell you when I've accomplished that goal." John Ellis "Jeb" Bush

Thank you for another outstanding post, seafan. If more people knew what's what, the thing would have 100 rec.s.
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coconut22 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 12:08 PM
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30. These people really thing the public is stupid..
they think if they change their names or strategy,distance themselves from beck or limbau,say they are a conservative instead of a repub then the public will say oh,these people are different and they are for the people and will vote for them.

They are insane,if they don't think that we know that they will enter office and start finishing up where they left off,destroying the country and the world..
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 01:05 PM
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33. A "safety net" for the needy is a trap set by the GOP to Kill reforms
FDR Said it best when he pointed out why he did NOT want Social Security "Means Tested". Basically (paraphrased) unless the majority of Americans believe they will get a Benefit from the program it will always be underfunded. If the majority of Americans believe they will get a benefit, the program will have wide spread support and thus adequate funding. Thus Welfare, which most people do NOT believe they will ever need, has almost no support, while Social Security, which most people believe they will get in their old age, has massive support. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a good way to see HOW this support differs. SSI is viewed by most Americans as part of Social Security, even through NO Social Security taxes are used to pay any SSI anyone gets (SSI is funded by General Revenues, while Social Security and Social Security Disability is funded from Social Security Taxes (Please note all three programs are run by Social Security).

Thus SSI pays the "Standard of Need" of $687 per month (plus additional fees from those states that supplement the Federal SSI payment) while Welfare has NEVER paid the "Standard of Need". The "Standard of Need" is an amount determined by the Federal Government on what costs a typical person needs to live. In my home County and state of Pennsylvania the welfare payment is only $174 a month for one person, $67 a month for each additional member of the household (The amount varies by state, the Pittsburgh amount is $206, the Philadelphia amount is $226 per month). Notice The amount in my home county is a little over 25% of the "Standard of need".

I point this out, for SSI has massive support and is well funded for it is tied in with Social Security. Welfare is NOT well funded for most people do NOT think they will ever use the program and is thus "means tested" to keep the "costs" low. FDR saw this problem in the 1930s and made an effort that Social Security would NEVER be means tested by making it someone most people will receive (And is thus always fully funded). The GOP LOVES "means testing" things for by doing so most people do NOT think they will ever use the program and as such the program has no support and is always underfunded. The GOP always try to get people to go with "Means testing" for it is a way to reduce support of the program to such a degree that the GOP can then underfund it or ever Zero fund it. Thus Means testing is a trap we have to avoid getting into.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 01:19 PM
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34. Look at the body language
He doesn't even believe what he's saying.

:rofl:
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