NY Daily News: Yes, Virginia, Guns Kill Innocents

Scathing.

You've been shrugging for decades as illegal guns from your state plague our city, killing and maiming and terrorizing New Yorkers by the thousands, at one point comprising 47% of the guns our cops recovered.

You even yukked it up with a "Bloomberg Gun GiveAway" raffle at a gun shop that sold at least 22 guns used in crimes in New York.

You went into a tizzy when Mayor Bloomberg sued some of your gun shops after undercover agents made fraudulent "straw purchases."

Your idea of gun control has been to pass a law making it illegal for undercover agents like those Bloomberg sent South to make such buys.

http://nydailynews.com/news/crime_file/2007/04/17/2007-04-17_yes_virginia_guns_kill_innocents-2.html

When will the body count be high enough?

We've done it the 2nd Amendment fetishists' way for 230 years now.

Perhaps it's time to go back to muskets.

Julie

Everyone needs to read that!

Sid

How rare.

K&R

thanks for posting this, very informative article.

Wow....just wow

think it's puzzling that "the right to bear arms is put in the constitution? Does any other country in the world give arms such a top priority? What's the psychological significance?

Is the fact that arms manufacture is the major U.S. industry related? Not to mention the inclination to go to war at the drop of the hat. As if reaching for a gun is America's automatic reflex.

Just wunnering. I find the high emotions generated around the gun issue quite mystifying.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/

One cannot separate the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms" from the key part of the Amendment, that being, "A well regulated Militia,".

NRA supporters would very much like to ignore the Militia section of the Amendment while emphasizing the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms" section.

I have personally felt for some time now that we should have a clarification Amendment stating that posession of a firearm beyond a hunting rifle or shotgun necessitates training in the use of the gun by and membership in the applicat's state militia. On top of that, such militias should be funded and supplied by the state for the purpose of defending the state against foreign invasion.

one could argue that such a system could serve as an ultimate, desperate check upon Federal power as well. Pity we see such a regulated check as an unregulated, unorganized free-for-all.

is used in conjunction with Militia which means the Amendment is clear there are to be regulations controlling the armed Militia and not an unfettered armed Militia yet those who cry 2nd Amendment when the very idea of gun control, which is regulating the purchase and ownership, is mentioned.

...guns are so tied to the American culture. It's so reversed from the rest of the world as are many other issues (universal healthcare, religion, education, sexuality etc).

I just don't understand it.

Cheers

If you think of it in that context, it makes a little sense... that, and a lot of people use guns to hunt, in which I very sincerely wish their aim to be true and their harvest to be a plenty. I have nothing at all against hunters... I just don't like the handgun freaks ("if only a student had had a gun on them...").

:puke:

I personally believe we ought to officially organize the various state militias, officially fund and train them, and in general make what was the domain of nutcases become the civil service it was meant to be. As I see it, the state militias could be utilized as a strictly Stateside- in every possible definition of the term- defense against foreign invasion. The Founders didn't include the word 'militia' without reason; surely, they knew the difference between a 'militia' and an 'army'.

Guns are as American as apple pie.

Get real, my friend.

Gratuitous and superfluous, IMHO.

:yoiks:

There is one way to stop it. Stop every vehicle for inspection at the southern NY state line. They do it with produce inspections out west.