Is it wrong to pose nude for a magazine? Why or why not?

Serious question.

The question should be whether said person is taking control of their body and sexuality or are they being exploited.

No.

Would I do it?

No.

(For many reasons, but primarily I'm pretty modest.)

And no, prolly not

is not hurting anyone else, then no.

argument for why it is wrong?

There is nothing wrong with the human body. There is nothing wrong with making some money from other people's perfectly natural desire to see other human bodies.

My stance on this is totally gender- and orientation-neutral. This applies across the board.


(And yeah, I probably will buy the Playgirl issue that Levi Johnston is in. Partly because my cougar side is thinking, oh yeah, that's a nice looking young man and in a magazine spread, he won't be talking; part of it is to contribute to all sorts of whistleblowers on the right-wing so I want to support it....)

She was proud of her body, had taken care of herself, etc.

She took her father, Frank, out to dinner to tell him about her decision.

Frank shook his head and told her, "You can't do that."

"Why not, Pop?" she asked.

"They aren't paying you enough."

why would it be? :shrug:

Including show it naked for money.

People will buy it or not ,let them if it blows their skirt up , Who cares . The more people talk about this the more it rings up the sales so go for it. Won't affect me one way or the other it will only allow for profits for some freak that's all.

and you all interest me.

They will still do it so all one can do is not look or buy it or rush to the stands.

will it cause trouble for the person posing?

:evilgrin:

Why not? My body.

...it should an astonishing lack of judgment. :)

One would ask if the person would still do it if they had a million dollars in the bank before posing. Is it really freedom of choice when their economic situation of poverty is "forcing" them to take this offer?

It's another case of the "free" market exploiting the poor.

Your definition of freedom could take some odd turns.

Why on Earth WOULD it be?

why would it be "wrong?"
Now, making coffee in your own house while naked - that is just wrong.

You know how this works.

:D

I think it is the easy way out. Young beautiful woman are taught to forget all the hard work it takes to get through college, forget the fact that you will have to work twice as hard to earn less than what a man earns. Forget all that. All you really have to do is appear in Girls Gone Wild, or Playboy, or dance on a poll. Same can be said for some men too I guess. Levi doesn't seem to have much ambition other than trying to make a quick buck. These young people usually end up paying a high price for it though. I've known a few friends who after high school went to work in strip clubs. They ended up doing drugs, driking, and getting into abusive relationships. Levi needs grow up and get a real job so he can help support his child.

I'm way past my prime, so I'll just be keeping my clothes on. Wouldn't want to scare anyone.

if I posed nude!

Very wrong.

Really.

:shrug:

Over 18, go for it.

Such a question is often asked, but there is never a real pretext for it. A magazine, a book, a poster, a sticker....the real question is would you be photgraphed (read: documented) naked?

for men, this question rarely if ever comes up on in casual conversation, never mind a serious discussion.

for women, this question is used to measure their character, their capability, their intelligence and worth, under the guise of being "comfortable with their sexuality," which, make no mistake, means the same thing in this society.

Moreover, the emaciated, the obese, the scarred, the deformed, the diseased, or simply aged are never asked this question.

Is it wrong to document a body that is judged unattractive?

Is it right to judge whose naked body is attractive?

Who is the judge? by what standards?

So the question becomes invalid. You pose naked for a magazine or you don't.

Asking for allied opinions or peer approval means there is equivocation behind the decision.

Which means it might be wrong. To whom?

Some people don't care whom, and some people do.

People who do, ask this question.

People who do, answer it.

Was that a "yes", or a "no"? :shrug:

in all its stages and struggles, from infants to the elderly, from the starved to the obese, from the infirm to the terminally ill...if they were to pose naked in a magazine, instead of always being clothed or covered, how would it change our standards of beauty with its false pride and vanity, how would it change our standards of health with its delusions of immortality, how would it change our standards of age and experience, with its altered and airbrushed realities?

This question is always asked with the image of attractive, young and healthy women in mind, and the off-occasion of young, attractive, healthy men. I should like to see a time when the poor and the sick and the old, the defective and the deformed people can show their bodies, document their living flesh and blood, and its marked experiences, naked and unashamed.

And the nakedness is not about liberation or social approval, it is not being comfortable with yourself, but simply being alive. What it means to be alive, even when the the body is unattractive, or unable, or declining...it is still a living thing. And we measure bodies of life by our faith in their struggles: which makes them all matter, which makes them all beautiful.

There's my two cents, anyway...I hope it counts.

in all its stages and struggles, from infants to the elderly, from the starved to the obese, from the infirm to the terminally ill...if they were to pose naked in a magazine, instead of always being clothed or covered, how would it change our standards of beauty with its false pride and vanity, how would it change our standards of health with its delusions of immortality, how would it change our standards of age and experience, with its altered and airbrushed realities?

This question is always asked with the image of attractive, young and healthy women in mind, and the off-occasion of young, attractive, healthy men. I should like to see a time when the poor and the sick and the old, the defective and the deformed people can show their bodies, document their living flesh and blood, and its marked experiences, naked and unashamed.

And the nakedness is not about liberation or social approval, it is not being comfortable with yourself, but simply being alive. What it means to be alive, even when the the body is unattractive, or unable, or declining...it is still a living thing. And we measure bodies of life by our faith in their struggles: which makes them all matter, which makes them all beautiful.

There's my two cents, anyway...I hope it counts.

that in your opinion I am doing something other than asking a question. Sure, that question might stir up different feelings in those who are asked, but I didn't create the feelings.

LOL...this sounds like some kind of experiment but it's not mean that way. Since I feel a bit of a need to defend myself I'll say I know of several publications that feature obese, injured and perhaps deformed (admittedly I don't recall this one) people in some wonderfully done photos.

Not at all.

Whether it's office worker, like me, or nude poser, like someone other than me.

I think Jenny McCarthy is making huge strides for the Autism community, yet she posed nude and because of that she gets little respect around DU and elsewhere.

The fact is: most people view posing nude as something degrading and exploitative.

I still think Jenny is great, but wish she hadn't allowed herself to be exploited for the almighty dollar.

The fact that somebody once took pictures of her with her tits out has very little to do with it.

Just 'cause most people don't, doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it. It just means (IMO) that most people are wrong.

(EDIT: Sometimes I typ gud, sometimes I don't...lol.)

I decide if I want to be exploited for monetary gain, and I don't care if you think it's wrong or not.

Is it more romantic if your employer loves you for your brains as well as your body?

...yes. I don't think anybody would particularly want to spend good money to see me nekkid.

Nudity is our natural state. As a matter of fact, most people look better fully clothed or even semi-nude than they do fully nude.

Honestly, I don't want other people to see me fully nude - because I am not proud of my body. But luckily I live in the woods where no-one can see me. So, the first thing I do when I get home is shed my clothes.

At one point, I shared an apartment with one guy and one girl, and all three of us were nude most of the time. Because we were comfortable with each other.

I'm completely nude right now.

What, TMI?

Damn, what kind of puritanical idiotic quetion is this?

I could be the before guy.

I work naked so posing naked would be a hell of a lot easier.

and I've posed nude numerous times for club ads that appear in mags.

My mother in law was a dancer during the early '50's and through the early 60's -


She worked at jack Ruby's club at one point, and Skull's place in Printer's alley in Nashville - both mobbed up clubs....

Except for the mob connections. Actual old time burlesque is really coming back into fashion, and I love that. Sadest thing about this biz is there's not all that much in the way of real dancing anymore. It bums me out to see so many co-workers doing nothing more than rolling about on floor and shaking their butts. All the time co-workers tell me how much they love it that I actually really dance every stage set and I just can't help but raise an eyebrow at them and say "well, duh... really dancing is part of the job or are you actually under the impression that wandering the stage playing with your tits and booty shaking is dancing?" Yeah, I work with a lot of really stupid people.

I agree about the stage performance. Those that can dance, dance. Those that can't dance walk around, slap their butts, jiggle their breasts, and roll on the floor. Not dancing. A good stage dance is quality from start to finish, and really should not be interrupted. The stage performance of Demi Moore in Striptease is an example of a good dancer doing a great stage performance. It's got grace, style, sexuality, gymnastic skills, and good props.

I haven't been in a club in over ten years, but good clubs are fun places to be. The music, the lighting, the ladies, the stage performances. I think it's a shame they are targeted so much by the moralists. Houston used to have the best clubs in the world. Now they have rule after rule, all designed to do one thing: Help the Bible thumpers think they're doing something to stop someone from having a good time.

Two of my good friends are former dancers. I've known one 27 years and the other one 19 years. Neither one danced beyond their 30th birthday, and one is now a teacher and mother of two. The other one is a trainer. Both are now in their 40s.

Puritanical indeed. :applause:

Sid

But if everyone else wants to that's cool too.

What the hell is wrong with simply asking for opinions on a question that is attacking no one?

or naked ugly people or naked old people or any combination thereof. The question then becomes whould a magazine allow such a thing, and dammit, they should. Our society has a really warped impression of what is considered beautiful because of what people that are allowed to be displayed in magazines naked or clothed. I'd love to see a magazine with posed nude models that are average every day looking people... average every day people are beautiful too.

I like naked people.

and thus be "exploited."

Hey, I admit. I'm part of the "problem" in that I've bought mags in the past and surfed for porn. I haven't paid for porn in many years, though. Why? Too many free pics available, and I'm not so lost in it that I'm willing to pay by the minute to watch others engage in sexual acts.

If nudity were allowed in the streets, as it were, porn would wither. It survives, like most religious endeavors, on the repression. Making it the forbidden fruit just jacks up the price.

The type of person that would want to pay to see me naked is not someone I would want having naked pictures of me.

The non-fat and attractive people should consider that before posing nude as well.

I'm overweight, out of shape with some interesting surgical scars. But I still like the way I look naked and wouldn't mind posing if the venue for it felt right to me.

Ask this among most groups of people -- say Free Republic or a church site -- and people will go crazy.

choice. There is no right or wrong on the whole. It is only what is right for oneself.

Nobody wants to see me naked.

I think our culture's twin obsessions with nudity: being ashamed of it, and sexualizing it, are indicative of cultural illness.

A healthy culture would accept all of the human body, and all human bodies, without shame, disgust, or automatic lust, imo. That would kind of negate the demand to pose nude for most purposes.

But I don't see anything wrong with posing nude, just as I don't see anything wrong with nudity itself.

It depends on what you look like.

Snort. Not for me.

Because I am not that proud.

Don

Nobody would ever, ever want to see that issue, but that's beside the point. ;)

I think bodies are beautiful and that it's a shame that we're taught to be ashamed of them.

I'm enjoying the discussion and diversity of opinion.

Posing for Hustler or the male equivalent might not be a great idea if you're thinking of a career in politics or the ministry.

Also, posing naked for a mag like French Vogue might ostensibly be different for an individual than say, showing all to the world in a skin mag like Big Boobs. Some people would argue that a woman or man photographed naked in a submissive pose is wrong because it perpetuates negative gender stereotypes. Everyone has their own private threshold for what's acceptable morally and as long people don't compromise their morals it's all good.

Bigger picture, nothing is wrong with an adult being photographed nude.

But if it's fun and profitable...

... neither is posing clothed for a magazine. I don't see it as wrong in either case.

Make your payments as usual.

;-)

Not wrong at all. But it's not for all people. Some are comfortable with doing it, some are not.
I would never do it, but that doesn't mean someone else wouldn't.

I can always choose to look or not look.
That seems to be a fundamental aspect that people tend to overlook.