ChristianForum OP: It's SICKENING to be child-free!

I had to capture the page so you could witness the trainwreck of icon and smileys...




http://www.christianforums.com/t5189726-the-ethics-of-child-free-couples.html

They are nutjobs.

My wife and I tried to make a baby for years and could not. We eventually adopted. But had we chosen not to, then those assholes would reserve the right to call us "sickening"? Fuck them.

And who the fuck taught her how to read and write? Some dutiful True Believer(TM) she is... :eyes:

:sarcasm:

:rofl:

Here's something from the Pentacostal forum-

"Yes quizzler, there is no debating here except among those who are ofp Penticostal/Charasmatic persuasion. According to the posted rules that have not yet been re-posted (due to crash) non-charasmatics/Penticostals may ask questions but they may not debate with us."

http://www.christianforums.com/t43194-lets-party-the-sequel-thread-.html



And the rules...gotta keep those icons, straight!

"UPC/ Oneness church members MUST use the Oneness faith icon as per Rule 6

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As such, members of this church will not be able to pass Forum Rule 6 and therefore should not use a Christian icon or post in the Christians-only forums. There is a specific Oneness faith icon for the use of members of the UPC and/or Oneness churches."

http://www.christianforums.com/t1353185-upc-oneness-church-members-must-use-the-oneness-faith-icon-as-per-rule-6.html



Debate rules.....Jebus, it don't get more formal than this...

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http://www.christianforums.com/t48432-formal-debating-rules.html




Too bad, no Agnostics forum....

with a bunch of meaningless facts? I see they mention the Nicene Creed. I wonder how many of them know exactly what went on at the council of Nicaea in 325 AD? How many of them know how their bible was cherry picked from numerous gospels, many of which were then destroyed because they didn't fit the image and message the church wanted to portray?

Many of these so called christians don't know squat about their own religion. They know what they've been told and that's it. That's good enough for them though. Remember, don't eat from the tree of knowledge. First lesson in the bible. There's a reason they wrote it that way, you know? :eyes:

All those rules, and the opening salvo in this particular "debate" is essentially "I think childless couples are totally, like, eeewwwww!!!! How about you?"

What was the rebuttal? "Like, totally, me too! Gross me out!"?

Viva la difference! (But keep sharp objects out of their reach when they are near me.)

So that's a good thing.

I liked this reply:

"I'd rather discuss the ethics of people who don't own cats. I personally believe it is unethical to be "cat free". I believe it is selfish and frankly quite sickening. What are your opinions on cat free people?"

:rofl:

I love it! :thumbsup:

so true!

I only own dogs.

:crazy:

Looks like Little Miss Pious Pinchbritches is a shit-stirrer. The site has a Childfree Couples forum and they're not too thrilled with her.

mina, I know the OP. She's not joking. She does have some psychiatric problems that make her unreliable (she says one thing this week and the opposite next week, then swings back to her original idea), but she is serious in her rigid opinions. I don't think age has much to do with it in her case, but her being single might be a factor (in combination with her extremity in opinions - nice single people will not think this way) - the opinion that people who don't want kids shouldn't even get married is pretty cruel, and truly loving/christian people who know the happiness of marriage will not sentence others to the misery of lifelong loneliness just because they lack maternal instincts. I hope.

:D

Teach me to jump to conclusions. After reading the OP and then the post containing the rules, I was expecting an unpleasant, uptight and mean little place - instead, I was surprised to find that they had a CF forum and that most of the members, CF or otherwise, seem to be funny, open-minded and even more odd, not religious fanatics!

And yes, it's waaaaaay heavy on the icons, but some of the users have cute avatars.

then I guess she would have no objection to a gay/lesbian couple having kids

of the other posters at least do not seem to be in agreement with her. She does seem jaded.

It's the so-called "Christians" that are getting sickening.

I was expecting a lot of fundie-spew, but instead I found what seemed to be a lot of decent people (at least in the Child-Free forum). It seems many there are liberals and Christians, and would no more preach to a stranger than anyone here would.

and water is wet.

If I wanted to find stupid opinions on the internet, I could look anywhere.

I'm tempted to register an account as PedoPope and make the case that ass-pounding altar boys is a holy sacrament.

:rofl:

:evilgrin:

Thank God we post at a site where no one has lunatic opini....wait a tick!!!

Now that I've been convinced that being child-free is selfish, I think I'll go down to the local bar tonight, have some drinks, take a guy home, steal his sperm, have a child as a single mother, and I won't be selfish anymore. What have been thinking all this time?????

:sarcasm:

advice and breed like a bunny. The world needs more of us. Why was I so selfish?

minding their own damn business? Why is it that people feel they have the right to meddle or judge how other people conduct their private lives?

WHAT A BITCH!

selfish and frankly sickening for people to keep popping out as many little brats as they can to promote their 'religion' or political ideology! BTW, PeaceLover02, what are you doing to establish that peace you love?

I'll never understand the "mandatory maternity" mindset?

not having children was the most UNselfish thing I have ever done. I wanted them but didn't feel I was "fit" to be a parent (for various reasons) so I never had any. I would've liked to very much but felt it would be selfish and unfair to bring a child into my world.

the price of gas, poverty, deforestation, global warming...then they say that those of us who DON"T want to put another soul on earth are SELFISH??? Hey, I believe that the human race only has 50 years (tops) before the resources completely run out. Why would I bring a child into a world where I am convinced that they would eventually die of either war or famine?

The only reason our society works is because romantic relationships create children. I kid you not, that's what I was told. I said, "I thought our society worked because we're nice to each other."

And then I asked about elderly couples and infertile couples and if they destroy society too. He said, "theoretically they *could* have children." And I said, no, someone who is elderly or infertile can't have children by theory or in reality. Fertile couples who use birth control could theoretically have children.

The mind set behind this kind of thing is what is sickening.

slapped down by most of the replies, for example:

Ah yes, the circle of life fundie style. Eat shit loads of starchy foods, squeeze large litters of brats out, then die. Lather, rinse, repeat.

All of my babies have fur and fangs.

We are both 51 and have no plans on having more children.
Are we "Sickening"? We love each other and want to marry. What if we just lived together? Still "Sickening"?
So they are just against people having sex?

personally, i rather regret NOT having kids than regret having them....

Sick, demented, brainwashed freak!



At least the responses disputed that post!

or why else would she think it's "selfish" to be child free?

superstitious cave people from thousands of years ago.


OOGA BOOGA!

fair that they had to have all their responsibilities regarding their children, and we could just do what we wanted to and that we flaunted that in her face by talking about things we did.

I had to look and was horrified by all the colorful and blinking images - aahhhh! But it seemed most people in the thread didn't agree with her, my eyes couldn't make it that far anyway.

I want kids, and I don't fully understand why some people don't want kids, but it's their choice and it would be *selfish* to have a kid you DON'T want just to satisfy the expectations of your family/religion/society/whatever, what child wants to grow up with parents who didn't want them at all?

I've had many of their children in my classroom over the years.

Believe me.