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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:16 AM Original message |
Honest real Health care reform was doomed from the start and I place the responsibility for that |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. Technically, there is already about a 4 year trigger, since it |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. That is no mistake. |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. The only stances he has been "Strong" on have been the compromises of liberal positions to the |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Obama was VERY STRONG... |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm not 100% thrilled with Obama either, but we don't really know at this point |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I pray that there is some master plan that I am not seeing here. I really do. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Of course 'behind the scences' was exactly what Obama said |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. You somehow think that with this congress, we had a shot at single payer? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Then the tactic should have been for Obama to publicly argue for |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. So the new slogan is 'No We Can't'? |
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islandmkl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
5. "Herding Cats into a Burlap Bag".... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Obama campaigned on a public option. Now he seems to say that the final bill does not neccearily |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. He campaigned on 'No Mandated Purchase' |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Nice deflection from the public option lie I responded to |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. I don't think he is directionless..do remember he had secret private meetings with Big Pharma, |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. he did`t start with a strong negotiating position |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. yeah he did , he gave it all away when he had secret meetings with Big Pharma and the hospitals and |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
9. You haven't been paying attention nt |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
11. Obama, Congress and the dancing supremes don't run this country. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
14. Given up, already? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. its those in our government that gave up..they gave up any real chance of real health care reform |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. You will be called an Obama hater; just get ready for it. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. Making Public Option Less Robust Is A Double Slap In The Face To Working Class Americans |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. The Health Insurers Have Already Won |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. I hear you. KR nt |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. knr - I've said the same thing...policy is set from the top, and that includes silencing.. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now because he really |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-28-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Negotiate drug prices for everyone on Medicare and the PO open to any |
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