Massachusetts GOPblog says Virginia Tech happened because people didn't pray enough

Virginia Tech - Who is to blame?

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Many have already made up their minds. Some are saying it is proof that we need more stringent gun laws or that we need to outlaw guns altogether. Some will have the exact opposite reaction and suggest that we need more guns in society so that people are capable of defending themselves when the police are not present. Others will say that these schools need additional police personnel and tighter security at all points across campus. Still others will say that colleges and universities need to put less pressure on young students.

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The young man that committed this heinous act will be discovered to have recently broken up with his girlfriend, or possibly realized his grades were lower than he hoped, or didn’t get the job he wanted. We will find after very short investigation that this man had recently been through some heartbreaking incident. His reaction to this type of emotional distress was to attack violently anyone he felt should pay. “Why should I have to suffer, or why should I suffer alone?” would have been his thoughts during this deadly attack.

Where do our children learn to cope with difficult and unfair life circumstances? From whom do they learn these coping skills? Where do young people learn that life is unfair and sometimes just down-right terrible, but never is it acceptable to lash out at innocent people because you feel bad for yourself? It should come from the parents, but sadly too many parents are willing to protect their children from criticism, judgment and failure because of their own lack of solid parenting skills. How many times have you heard of a parent assaulting a teacher because the teacher criticizes the student? A quick Google search might bring up hundreds of examples. Too many parents protect and insulate their children so that the child never learns the valuable lesson of how to cope with life’s occasional troubles. Children need to learn that they can fail, and though it hurts life is still worth living. Children need to learn that throughout their lives they will occasionally suffer great failures and losses, but likewise enjoy great successes as well.

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The less painful way to learn to cope with failure in life is to learn religion. The bible is full of stories about people who have suffered. Take Job for instance, who found his life utterly decimated. His family taken, wealth lost, health weakened and hope gone. With nothing left to live for he cries out to God in frustration and anger. God rebukes him and reminds him that God alone is in charge and Job is deserving of only what He allows. Harsh words, but ultimately what Job needs to hear in order to rebuild his broken life. Job not only survives his ordeal, but goes on to flourish once again in God’s grace.

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In related news, MassGOP Blog joins The David Duke Wing of the Republick Party and endorses Tom Tancredo for President:
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levels!! That's a buncha dumbfucks, there!

"If you pray hard enough you can make water run uphill.
How hard do you have to pray?
Why hard enough to make water run uphill of course" LL

Everything has to be supernatural related.

Maybe the federal government should require every city and town to broadcast a call to prayer every morning noon and night using some sort public broadcast such as their weather warning systems. I would also suggest that each man woman and child have at their disposal a prayer rug to kneel on to pray. And finally I suggest that all people face east toward Bethlehem where Jesus was born.

Especially if you are a woman, or a minority, or are different.

It can teach you to vote in people who raid the treasury and give it to their friends but of course not give it to you. It teaches that to vote against your middle class standing in society and vote for the ultra-rich, so they can be rewarded. But of course you wont be rewarded. You have stand on your own two feet and follow the law but they can break the law and can get rich from the government.

The Catholic church, when I was growing up, taught me to offer my suffering up to Christ. Because no matter how badly you suffer, your pain can never equal what Jesus suffered. What I didn't understand was why would Jesus benefit or be pleased by my suffering. What kind of God derived pleasure from the sufferings of those who worshiped it?

Yes, turn to religion and learn to suffer.

to settle a bet with Satan.

If there is a god, then The Book of Job proves that he is an asshole unworthy of worship.

Hallowed is The Ori!

It was only a matter of time until some idiot decided to blame loosy goosy gun laws, a mentally ill, troubled loner, stress of school and exams, a bad relationship, and the resulting deaths of 33 innocents on not enough people prostrating themselves before an invisible, make-believe charecter, concocted out of a badly translated collection of fairy tales, plagerized from many different cultures.

but you knew it would happen. What next? Will they blame that northeastern storm on too many gays? And what causes the tsunamis in the Pacific? Pornography? How about earthquakes, a breakdown in family values?

When the only tool in your limited tool kit is a hammer, every problem begins to look like a nail. When you deliberately, intentionally remove all rational thought from your life, every problem looks like it can only be solved by prayer. Idiots. self-created, bigoted, small minded idiots.

where he said "If gunmen come tomorrow to get I, I'm not afraid. Jah will protect I. Bullets can't come through I." He was shot to death soon after that.

What a surprise....

Todd in Cheesecurdistan

Let us harken back to the dog days of September 1992, right after Hurricane Andrew decimated South Florida and I got sent toHomestead to help run a refugee camp.

Many children lived in our camp, and we had nothing for them to do. We didn't even have a school playground for them to go to.

Then we found out that local entertainers were willing to go to the refugee camps to make the children happy if we'd make them a stage to perform on. We had space for a stage and LOTS of extra lumber...one stage, coming up.

Right after our very fine stage was completed, the entertainers did come. Many were from churches.

One of these people actually told about 200 kids that CHILDREN caused Hurricane Andrew because they didn't love their parents enough and they didn't pray hard enough.

Oh yeah...kinda humorous tale. Dipshit's father decided to come to My Refugee Camp to have lunch with children at the middle school across the street. We had this one kid in there who just thought soldiers in general and me in specific were the shit, man, I think he planned out his whole life's work after dealing with me. Anyway, he got picked to eat with Poppy and told us he was going to get to ask "the president" questions. I gave him some questions; good thing for this kid that someone read the note because they were all about Administration malfeasance during the Iran-Contra scandal.

Where do these young people learn (or not learn) how to cope with disappointment, bad news and even tragedy? It's not only the young people, but many older ones as well. Why do some instantly turn to guns when they feel angry?

We all talk about the Iraqi's killing each other for religious reasons, but as foolish as that sounds to us, killing out of anger for any reason is even worse!

How many times have you personally heard someone say "I'll kill him!" or "That guy should be shot!" I admit, most of the time those are just words and the speaker has NO intention to carry out sucha threat, but think about it. How many are really serious?

culture, which itself is probably a big part of the problem, not one too likely to be seriously dealt with.

Okay that made me snarf my coffee. Mass gopblog must consist of like a dozen carpetbaggers who live in daily fear of being corrupted by all the evil, liberal, gay-loving, commie, pinko Dems!!!

Job was one of the most devout worshippers of God portrayed in the Bible and remained so. He never got angry with God, despite his problems.

Of course, God told Satan to do whatever he wanted to Job as long as he didn't kill him.

http://eawc.evansville.edu/anthology/job.htm


Job 1:12 And the LORD said to Satan, "Behold, all that he has is in your power; only upon himself do not put forth your hand." So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.


Job 2:1-7 1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, "Whence have you come?" Satan answered the LORD, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it." 3 And the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil? He still holds fast his integrity, although you moved me against him, to destroy him without cause." 4 Then Satan answered the LORD, "Skin for skin! All that a man has he will give for his life. 5 But put forth thy hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face." 6 And the LORD said to Satan, "Behold, he is in your power; only spare his life."

7 So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD, and afflicted Job with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head. 8 And he took a potsherd with which to scrape himself, and sat among the ashes. 9 Then his wife said to him, "Do you still hold fast your integrity? Curse God, and die."

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In other words, god gave Job to satan to play with.

Re-read my original post.

and allow everyone else to go back to the actual discussion at hand rather than "proving" your 1337 atheist skillz.

Not so. I'm just pointing out that he did not inflict the suffering on Job (other than from the viewpoint of "he did nothing to stop it, so he is complicit").

This was one of God's more heinous incidents (akin to asking Abraham to perform a human sacrifice of his own son just to see if he'd do it).

Heap unassailable guilt onto the suffering survivors of the horrible tragedy, GOPer's. Jesus would be so proud.

Too many Americans read the Bible. That has resulted in the violence in our society.

Countries with less religion and less Bible reading also have less violence. QED.

(This post started out tongue-in-cheek, but I ended by convincing myself!)

One of the pressures the young shooter complained about
was pressure from his mother to become much *MORE*
active in her (the mother's) religion.

Tesha

and it doesn't look like it's Islam or Buddhism. :think:

Or maybe he had a fucking chemical imbalance?

:sarcasm:

"...Passive indifference to faith has left Europe's churches mostly empty. But debate over religion is more intense and strident than it has been in many decades. Religion is re-emerging as a big issue in part because of anxiety over Europe's growing and restive Muslim populations and a fear that faith is reasserting itself in politics and public policy. That is all adding up to a growing momentum for a combative brand of atheism, one that confronts rather than merely ignores religion.

Karen Armstrong, a former Catholic nun and prominent British author on religion, calls the trend "missionary secularism." She says it mimics the ardor of Christianity, Islam and Marxism, all of which have at their core an urge to convert nonbelievers to their worldview.

Mr. Onfray argues that atheism faces a "final battle" against "theological hocus-pocus" and must rally its troops. "We can no longer tolerate neutrality and benevolence," he writes in 'Traité d'athéologie," or Atheist Manifesto, a best seller in France, Italy and Spain. "The turbulent time we live in suggests that change is at hand and the time has come for a new order.'..."


http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB117631918714166684-lMyQjAxMDE3NzE2MjMxMTI5Wj.html

Who knows, many Koreans I've met were very devout Christians...maybe Cho was one as well. Or maybe in his imaginary world he did pray...constantly for someone to hear him, to understand him, to love him. Maybe he didn't say the "right" prayers. :sarcasm:

It's amazing how people project their own agendas on a tragedy like this. Easy to condemn, easy to analyize, but rarely understood.

Give me one pair of working hands over a thousand pairs of praying hands any day.

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