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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:13 AM
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Why does corpmedia pretend shock CIA is involved in drugrunning when reports PROVED it in 90s?
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 09:17 AM by blm
Seriously....none of these people at ANY news organization remember the extensive BCCI report handed to Bush and Clinton in Dec 1992?

None remember all that cheap IranContra cocaine that found its way into inner city communities all over the country in the 80s?

None of these people remember Gary Webb's CIA drugrunning story in 1996 that forced corroborating CIA documents into a courtroom in 1998?

Of COURSE they don't remember. They CONSCIOUSLY helped Bush and Clinton administrations distract from these reports and deepsix many of the outstanding matters, while they targeted for teardown those who dared investigate, uncover, and call for further scrutiny - be it a Senator, Congressman, or Pulitzer Prize winning reporter.

BCCI Report:
http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/

Robert Parry:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/Print/2006/051006.html

Gary Webb is the San Jose Mercury News journalist that was run out of his job and blacklisted from the industry for daring to report what he found out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6dHqP9wc3k
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:15 AM
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1. They know but coverups and perpetuating
lies is all part of M$Greedia's business.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:24 AM
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2. I thought all the CIA did was drugrunning. I thought controlling/maintaining the drug flow
was their raison d'etre.
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:50 AM
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3. United States of Amnesia?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:51 AM
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4. Just following the movie script that's sold for public consumption
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:18 AM
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5. Certainly appears to be the case.
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 10:18 AM by blm
That was obvious (obvious in SPADES) during 2004 election cycle when nearly EVERY news outlet repeated the lie that Kerry's record as senator was unremarkable, as if IranContra, BCCI, S&L, Iraqgate and CIA drugrunning matters NEVER HAPPENED.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:20 AM
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6. As far as the M$M is concerned, they never did...
but Operation Mockingbird was shut down though... much the same way that TIA was shut down, so it's just about ratings now. Yep. Totally.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:23 AM
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7. M$M collectively & simply followed the Playbook from the Gore/Bush "election."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 12:30 PM
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45. The media pushing out IranContra/CIA drugrunning reporters happened years before.
As was their targeting of Kerry and Henry Gonzalez, treating them more like whacko conspiracy theorists because that is exactly how establishment DC needed them to be seen.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:04 AM
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8. Alfred McCoy wrote about it in the '70s.
His book is called The Politics of Heroin, but I think it's out of print. I have an updated edition that covers Afghanistan in the '80s and '90s.

Bill
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:20 AM
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9. I think of Vietnam and the Golden Triangle
And now it's Afghanistan. Remember the AF young woman who was found shot on base in Afghanistan? You ever wonder what she uncovered? Didn't she tell her family that something wasn't kosher and joked about being found dead?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:27 AM
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12. Long past time for media to discuss publically HOW Bush1 earned his CIA handle "Poppy" decades ago.
.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:31 AM
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16. The Politics of Heroin in SE Asia
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:37 AM
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17. Funny, how the countries we war with have an abundance of two things - Oil or Opium
and its various byproducts.

To America

With Love,

Poppy Bush

and

Cronies
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:48 AM
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18. Our intelligence agencies like the spending cash they can receive by shipping
drugs by diplomatic pouch.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:23 AM
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10. Also remember the original "AIR AMERICA" was for CIA heroin in body bags from Vietnam.
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 11:23 AM by slampoet
That has also been proven to be behind the upsurge in cheap heroin during the 70's
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:28 AM
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14. Air America was Richard Secord working with Ollie North. Later the name
was changed to Southern Air for the "humanitarian aide" for the Contras. I noted that Secord's air transport was contracted for the Afghan war. They were based in one of the Stans north of Afghanistan.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:53 PM
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39. Ollie got rehabbed pretty damn quick, too.
Fascists didn't buy up all that media in the 80s and 90s for nothing.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 12:10 AM
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43. Controlling the message.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:25 AM
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11. If Richard Secord is present, expect a robust drug trade.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:28 AM
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13. The CIA runs their competition out of business.
Those drug dealers that5 won't play ball, get their countries invaded.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:30 AM
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15. K & R
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TomPaine76 Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:52 AM
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19. Not to mention backdoors built into our telecom
BLM, thanks for continuing to be an open government advocate.
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:04 PM
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20. Let's talk about Far West Ltd. and Dilligence.

The Safari CIA drug pushers club octopus whose tentacles reach from Kabul to Pristina. Tell me where they make their business and I'll tell you where the next US inavsion will be.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:06 PM
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27. Surely the coincidence theorists will be along to challenge you.......
gee....they must be avoiding this thread.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:17 PM
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21. A pattern has developed
Early 1970s - CIA in SE Asia = heroin explosion in US
1980s - CIA in Central America = cocaine explosion in US
2000s - CIA in Afghanistan = heroin boom in US

Coincidence?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:20 PM
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22. 1990s? Try 1970s!
When Senator Frank Church's commission revealed all the CIA dirt in the late 1970s, a lot of us thought that era was over. Unfortunately, they're worse than ever now.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 02:40 PM
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26. The 1992 BCCI report tracked back to 70s to 80s shady dealings. But, as far as corpmedia goes
I was actually cutting them some slack on the 60s and 70s since most of them weren't around then.

Most of them WERE around when IranContra, Iraqgate, BCCI, CIA drugrunning matters flared up and definitely were around when some of those outstanding matters long deepsixed came back at us BIGTIME on 9-11-2001.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:22 PM
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23. k/r
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:22 PM
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24. They're kind of like blow up sex dolls, with that "perpetually agape look of surprise"
Being smart and curious and well-read and knowledgeable in the ways of our country's rulers is not how you land a gig in the corporate media. If you want to keep your MSM propaganda gig, and you aren't actually surprised and shocked by reports that our CIA is dallying with drug traffickers again, you had better be able to visibly fake disbelief and astonishment.

Well, I never! Our ally is a heroin trafficker? It just CAN'T be true, can it? We're the good guys!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:28 PM
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25. Shhhh! You're interrupting the show...
:kick: & R


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:15 PM
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28. Look, if CIA was dealing drugs, there's gotta be a perfectly legitimate reason for doing so.
Like making money.

And population control.

Dat Corporate McPravda knows all about dem tings.
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Wounded Bear Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:17 PM
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29. Weren't these the guys blaming Clinton...
for the Arkansas drug connections in the 80's?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:33 PM
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32. They ignored the REAL story at Mena - that it was GHWBush's CIA doing the drugrunning and
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 04:35 PM by blm
Clinton was a small state governor who believed in Reagan-Bush's IranContra policy and told to look the other way.


Keeping Clinton's peccadilloes in the news was a convenient distraction from the SERIOUS NEWS that was in these reports, and prevented attention on matters that required further scrutiny. Pure dog and pony show for the masses.

That Fascist Jackson Stephens must still be laughing in his grave at what he pulled over on this country.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:19 PM
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30. Heroin first flooded America's cities right after WWII...
and it is no coincidence that a certain organization also came into existence at the exact same time.
"But...but...but...it's really Charlie Parker's fault!"
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:31 PM
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31. Because their corpmasters pay them to. nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:52 PM
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33. heh...well, that's the SHORT answer.
.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:15 PM
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34. HEADS UP - related thread with RESPONSE from Kerry that he wants ANSWERS from CIA officials who
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:27 PM
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35. Not only drugrunning...

its all mixed together with illicit arms trading, money laundering, illegal selling of nuclear technology and other top secret intel....look at what happened to Danny Casolaro when he discovered that the DOJ itself is involved with the early technology that made this all possible and was attempting to write a book about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw#Deaths_allegedly_related_to_the_Inslaw_case
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:30 PM
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36. This stuff going on today directly traces back to Poppy Bush's past dealings that had been deepsixed
over the years.

Time for Kerry to START NEW NARCO-TERRORISM HEARINGS.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:40 PM
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37. Much of it started during the time of the Bay of Pigs...

when the CIA was colluding with the mafia to overthrow Castro, and even earlier when Barry Seal became a CIA pilot flying to and from Guatemala:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm

The following year <1959> Barry Seal became a CIA pilot in Guatemala. It is also believed that Seal was involved in training Cuban exiles on No-Name Key in Florida and on the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain in Louisiana.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:41 PM
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38. yep - Poppy goes back to the beginnings of CIA.
Right with his daddy and HIS fascist pals.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 06:12 PM
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42. Why was Barry Seal killed? n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:55 PM
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40. Remember what Sibel Edmonds said........
Remember what Sibel Edmonds said........
“EDMONDS: Okay. So these conversations, between 1997 and 2001, had to do with a Central Asia operation that involved bin Laden. Not once did anybody use the word “al-Qaeda.” It was always “mujahideen,” always “bin Laden” and, in fact, not “bin Laden” but “bin Ladens” plural. There were several bin Ladens who were going on private jets to Azerbaijan and Tajikistan. The Turkish ambassador in Azerbaijan worked with them.

There were bin Ladens, with the help of Pakistanis or Saudis, under our management. Marc Grossman was leading it, 100 percent, bringing people from East Turkestan into Kyrgyzstan, from Kyrgyzstan to Azerbaijan, from Azerbaijan some of them were being channeled to Chechnya, some of them were being channeled to Bosnia. From Turkey, they were putting all these bin Ladens on NATO planes. People and weapons went one way, drugs came back.

GIRALDI: Was the U.S. government aware of this circular deal?

EDMONDS: 100 percent. A lot of the drugs were going to Belgium with NATO planes. After that, they went to the UK, and a lot came to the U.S. via military planes to distribution centers in Chicago and Paterson, New Jersey. Turkish diplomats who would never be searched were coming with suitcases of heroin.”

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006 /

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 06:04 PM
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41. U.S. Goes Easy on LA Bank Manager Once Accused of Hiding Drug $$$
U.S. Goes Easy on LA Bank Manager Once Accused of Hiding Drug $$$
A Tale of Two Fugitives: Life on the Run Works Out for BCCI Official, but Not Roman Polanski


By BRIAN ROSS, VIC WALTER, RHONDA SCHWARTZ and RICHARD ESPOSITO
Oct. 28, 2009

For Roman Polanski, life as a fugitive has led to the worst of times.


Share
Former Fugitive-Turned-Bank Manager Dodges Questions from ABC News.For the manager of a major Los Angeles bank, however, life as a fugitive had led to the best of times including a California home, a big bank job and U.S. citizenship.

Saad Shafi fled the country for Pakistan in 1988 after being indicted by a federal grand jury on charges he and other executives at the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI, helped Colombia drug bosses and Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega hide millions in drug money.


xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

( footnote from flyarm..i don't agree with giving Roman Polanski immunity , I believe he should forever be held accountable for his crimes in our courts. I have no sympathy for Polanski! none. I am posting this because it was on ABC tonight about this banker..and thought it would be of interest to this thread.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 10:20 AM
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44. BCCI characters popped up again in 9-11 and media never NOTICED?
.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:04 PM
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46. Mockingbirds in the media. n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:20 PM
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47. Because it would lead to the truth of what the CIA has been all along
A treasonous gang of terrorists and drug dealers working for the Bush Crime Family and their fellow Wall Street Bastards. They have NEVER operated in the interest of the American people, much less the people of all the other countries they have fucked up.

And another reason is that the CIA has so many of their tools embedded within the corporate media itself, that they would be able to kill any story, should any non-embedded journalist try to write one.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 02:11 PM
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48. Important point you just made - alot of the censorship of these stories comes from TOP DOWN by
'newsmen' and their 'production offices' planted decades ago in the major broadcast and print newsrooms.
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