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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:30 PM
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A caller from Massachusetts on the Ed Schultz show made a great
point on Joe Lieberman he said: Joe Lieberman wants us to send tax dollars to a Israel who happens to have a government run health care system, but he doesn't think the American people are good enough for the same kind of system Israel has. He also said he won't compromise anymore in favor of the insurance industry.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:30 PM
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1. I'll rec it here too!
;)
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:36 PM
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2. He's for American tax dollars supporting my healthcare, but only if I move to Israel.
That's a compelling point! I'll rec this too.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 02:01 PM
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6. I say if Americans get sick with cancer, etc. we fly them over to Israel and demand treatment.
They've already paid into Israel's system, after all.

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:39 PM
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3. Holy Joe has also been one of the biggest fans of the illegal occupation of Iraq
And they also now have single payer healthcare, funded by US taxpayers.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:41 PM
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4. This is all a farce.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 01:44 PM
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5. No, no. Let's assume he's acting on principle.
Will he deny funding to Israel until they correct their socialist health care system?


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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 03:45 PM
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9. Yeah...well ask him.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 02:33 PM
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7. .
:kick:
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 02:34 PM
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8. The Creeping Menace of National Health Care!
Lets fight it over there so we don't have to fight it here!!!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 03:58 PM
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10. Joe Lieberman likes killing arabs for Israel.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:27 AM
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12. Hamas likes killing Jews for Allah.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:48 AM
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15. Maybe we should stay out of their wars over religion and
thousands of years of hating one another.Maybe we should bring our troops home and only give aid for food and medicine. Lets make it illegal to ship arms to another country UNLESS congress has declared war and we use the full and complete might of the American military machine to completely destroy our enemy.Bet we wouldn't do that much, if ever, and peace would rule America.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:31 AM
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25. It's been like that ever since Korea.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:57 AM
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30. Financing Israel is a big rock to overturn . . . and we should get to it!!!
Forget the numbers on the money we're giving them every day!

But, US and Israeli weapons' production is also so completely intertwined that

you almost can't tell the difference between them!

Let's adopt the health care idea -- and STOP pushing for their wars in the M.E.

Stop arming Israeli right wing fanatics -- !!!

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:23 AM
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17. Big Insurance likes killing Americans for profit. Joe on killing side too often
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:21 AM
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22. And vice-versa! Response to #12
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 08:22 AM by sasquuatch55
nt
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:31 AM
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24. Bzzzt...wrong answer. Israelis enjoy staying alive. They tend to kill in response to attack.
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:30 AM
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27. Bzzzt...Terrorist bully Govt./ Military orginization that victimize their own children!
nt
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:49 AM
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29. What are you babbling about?
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:44 AM
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32. Terrorist bully Israeli Govt./ Military organization that victimize their own children!
You know exactly what I'm talking about. Don't deny it. Their schools brainwash the children with propaganda.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 09:28 AM
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26. But Holy Joe gets to use the U.S. military to do it.
All those Christian "Holy Warriors" killin' dirty Ay-rabs.


Not much of a level playing field, there.

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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:02 PM
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11. He also mentioned .......
not only is healthcare provided but also higher education. :wtf: Joe wants to send more $ .

We are going backwards and the cost of going in reverse is staggering. ONE BIG HOLE!
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:54 AM
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13. Hurrah! As I wish tea baggers would get the message . . .

. . . if single-payer is fascist, it means all of Europe has become fascist, and we lost WWII. Why aren't we at war with Europe?
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 02:21 AM
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14. The reason Lieberman...
...doesn't have a problem with our sending hundred of millions - if not billions - to Israel is that, as the Senator from Tel Aviv, he gets millions of those dollars back and stashes them away in off-shore accounts every year.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:18 AM
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16. I believe IRAQ has 'socialized medicine' too, that our taxes pay for.
Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge the Iraqis one bit, because after we've absolutely devastated their infrastructure and killed/maimed/injured hundreds of thousands of their civilians, it's the very least we can do. It's just a question of why we can fund 'socialized medicine' (sic) over there, but not at home.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:33 AM
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18. It's in their USA-approved Constitution. DU'er Zulchzulu posted it yesterday.
zulchzulu Thu Oct-29-09 02:41 PM

Lieberman, the Blue Dogs and the GOP SUPPORT Single Payer government-run healthcare... in Iraq

Edited on Thu Oct-29-09 02:45 PM by zulchzulu
It's been pointed out before, but those who have funded the war in Iraq and were adamant about being against government-run healthcare have a slight problem in their moral consistency.

Why aren't these same people, who are resisting government-run healthcare, not about to change the Iraqi Constitution as well as taxpayer-funded appropriations to make it so?

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

http://www.uniraq.org/documents/iraqi_constitution.pdf


If anyone in the media has any level of journalism in their blood, they would ask why there isn't a problem with government-run healthcare in Iraq but it's a "problem" here...

***************

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8721920


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:37 AM
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20. We could probably fund it here too, if the top 1% taxed like in Reagan years
Seems likely a lot of the 1%ers own stocks in companies profiting from the war that is running up our debt and giving the GOP a thin excuse that we can't afford anything that benefits the masses of the American people.

Fuckers bleeding us and the world seven ways to Sunday.
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 08:25 AM
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23. IRAQ DOES HAVE 'socialized medicine' too, that OUR TAXES pay for.
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 08:35 AM by sasquuatch55
It's in their constitution that we wrote!


Iraqi Constitution, written by the US calls for Govt. run health care for it's citizens, and Americans will be paying for it! What's wrong with this picture?

Iraqi Health care! Chapter 1 Rights and Liberties, Article 30-31


Article 30:

First: The state guarantee to the individual and the family -- especially children and women -- social and health security and the basic requirements for leading a free and dignified life. The state also ensures the above a suitable income and appropriate housing.

Second: The State guarantees the social and health security to Iraqis in cases of old age, sickness, employment disability, homelessness, orphanage or unemployment, and shall work to protect them from ignorance, fear and poverty. The State shall provide them housing and special programs of care and rehabilitation. This will be organized by law.

Article 31:

First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The state takes care of public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and medical institutions.

Second: Individuals and institutions may build hospitals or clinics or places for treatment with the supervision of the state and this shall be regulated by law.


Iraqis' get healthcare from US, Americans do not.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:34 AM
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19. K & R
:kick:
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Mel Rosian Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:48 AM
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21. Lieberman is phony!
Still supports Iraq war, campaigned with McCain (hello???), grabbed up his toys in 2006 and went home (independant).
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 10:45 AM
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28. Shocked I tell ya...shocked.
n.t.
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london calling Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 01:33 PM
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31. Joe
Joe likes the VA, Medicare and Medicaid, Israeli health care, his own health care. These are all government run health care programs. But government run health care is bad?
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