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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:23 PM
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Al Gore Gets Approval To Install Solar Panels On His Tennessee Home
Well gee, what will all the detractors think of next to attack him with? He is walking the walk and talking the talk. More that can be said for those who have no time to do anything but obsess over his every move instead of actually doing something about this crisis now, and that seems to be happening on both ends of the political spectrum.

And hmm, does putting solar panels on your house also mean you are running for President? Oh wait, I think if you are going on a diet and not growing a beard, that means you are running... or wait... is it if you wear blue suits with red ties on Tuesdays? ... oh wait, no, it's if you shave and shower every day... oh yes, and the secret handshake and eye winks are a definite sign as well. Oh, and saying the political process is toxic is just a big tease too because that is just a lie doncha know.

I actually think putting solar panels on your house defintely means you are running for President... after all, it couldn't mean you simply care about the environment... not if you are Al Gore. If you are Al Gore you have to live up to a double standard set by those on both ends of the political spectrum who think you have a duty to do it their way and to account to them for how you live your life and there is always a politically clandestine motive to everything you do because they just can't let go.

On one end they can't let go of their hate because well, that is just who they are and on the other end they just can't seem to support this man based on who he is as opposed to what they want him to be because who he is is just not good enough for them. This is who he is: A visionary statesman and environmental advocate par excellence who has done and is doing more to further this cause than anyone is doing right now, and how he lives his life reflects that. But of course that won't still be enough... not if you are Al Gore. Hopefully this will appease them all for a while.
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Al Gore Gets Approval To Install Solar Panels at His Tennessee Home

NASHVILLE -- Former Vice President Al Gore's upscale neighborhood granted the environmental activist approval Tuesday to install 33 solar panels on the roof of his mansion. Belle Meade had blocked his application until new rules were approved unanimously late Tuesday, said Gore spokesman Chris Song.

The city located within metropolitan Nashville said the panels must be placed in areas where they can't be seen by neighbors. Gore, who starred in the documentary film "An Inconvenient Truth" about global warming, already buys enough energy from renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and methane gas to balance 100 percent of his electricity costs.

He is also upgrading the furnace, windows, and light switches, as well as installing new floor radiant heat and solar vents, to improve the home's energy standards, said Kalee Kreider, a Gore spokeswoman. The home bought by Gore in 2002 is more than 70 years old and illustrates the challenges of renovating an older home to conserve more energy, Kreider said. "It's obviously easier to build a green home from the get-go," she said. "When you purchase an older home, these retrofits take lot longer." Source: Associated Press
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:25 PM
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1. Good. And it DOESN'T MATTER what the detractors think of
next to attack him with...he'd STILL win if he ran.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:31 PM
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4. But again, ths isn't about him running for anything, especially if he doesn't want to
This is about people joining together now to help him in this cause. Of course, that appears to be lost on many, especially those in our media and some on both ends of the political spectrum who support their unsubstantiated speculation and innuendos to suit their own agendas.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:28 PM
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2. "placed in areas where they can't be seen by neighbors"
Because solar panels are just so offensive, aren't they?

MUCH more than oil derricks and offshore oil platforms.

Or coal-burning electric plants.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:31 PM
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5. Yes, I found that to be so arrogant
Glad he got the approval.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:34 PM
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29. our town supposedly has an ordinance about clotheslines -- with similar wording!
I guess some creepy control-freak in the 1980s got fixated on the possibility that s/he might look out of the window and catch sight of a neighbor's "unmentionables" dangling on the line!

I suspect that the town council is waiting for that person to move or pass away, before they change it.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:32 PM
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36.  Maybe she was just ashamed of her own unmentionables ;-) n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:54 PM
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39. That's why I live in the country
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 07:54 PM by Canuckistanian
There are so damned many "ordinances" and "bylaws" about what you can and can't do on your own property.

In nearby Kanata, there are bylaws about clotheslines, antennas and even PAINT COLORS on your house.

This is madness. I'm not like everyone else, why should I have to "conform" to avoid possibly offending someone?

I think the "clothesline" thing is about to be challenged because of people (like us) who refuse to us an energy-wasting clothes dryer.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:30 PM
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3. Yay Al!!!
I love that man.
I wish he would run. I would be proud to work to get him elected.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:33 PM
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6. Me, too.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:33 PM
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7. Yes, I love him too
Just the way he is. Free to choose his own path in life.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:34 PM
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8. whats truly disgusting is that he needs permission to get them installed
There are probably 1000s, maybe millions of local zoning laws and association laws that prevent people from putting up windmills and solar panels.

Congress should make laws freeing people to put up solar panels and windmills if they choose too and if they are not huge and obvious eye sours (like a 300ft windmill in the front yard).
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:40 PM
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9. Nope, Congress gotta save the Unborn BAYBEEZ!
Priorities, man!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:42 PM
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11. and flag burning
:eyes:
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:44 PM
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13. Seriously--a few simple federal standards would go a looong way
Aside from the bleedin' obvious, that homeowners should be able to install solar panels and other functional energy generators, why not mandate sidewalk and bike lane construction for any new residential development?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:48 PM
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15. My beef is about renters
I rent so I can't have solar power in my state unless my landlord decides to put solar panels on the roof. I am stuck with what I have because I rent? I don't find that to be constructive to progress.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:15 PM
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24. I hear ya, and I'd rented for a fair number of years, but...
long-term, I can't see the Feds effectively offering tax breaks to renters to make those improvements. There just isn't enough of an incentive to make it cost effective.

Put another way--the feds need to make your landlord want to put in the solar panels.

And they need to make the developers install sidewalks and purchase right-of-ways to enable pedestrian and bike traffic, not just car/bus/train... but that's a whole 'nother rant.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:54 PM
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25. Well, I'm going to try to persuade them myself
We'll see what happens.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 06:22 AM
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40. Bonne chance!
Maybe you can make the numbers work to make your case. It won't be easy but it's worth a shot.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:41 PM
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10. I agree...
But that would mean that Congress would have to extricate themselves out of the anal orifices of the energy interests that fill their campaign coffers.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:42 PM
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12. a funny thing thou, most of those in Congress married to Exxon have an R
next to their name.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:51 PM
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17. That is true... but it does run to the other side as well n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:44 PM
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14. He probably also has to get his paint color approved
Between local zoning laws, homeowner's associations, and (sometimes) the local historical society it's a wonder homeowners can get things done.

BTW, here in our city they have an ordinance that you can't have Christmas lights up something like 30 days past Christmas or you'll get fined.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:49 PM
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16. Even if you don't put them on? n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:52 PM
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18. LOL! We don't
But then our homeowner's association doesn't allow them on the outside of the building anyway. :)
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:55 PM
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19. Just curious why not allowed
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 12:57 PM by RestoreGore
Fire hazard? Eyesore?
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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:35 PM
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30. You need permission in Belle Meade to do anything.
They're trying to preserve their antebellum charm or somesuch.

I had some friends who were redoing a house there with an addition and it was ludicrous what they had to go through.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:59 PM
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20. Too bad that Bush's ranch in Crawford kicks Gore's house to the curb
Yes, it's amazing but it's true: Bush's ranch in Crawford is way, way more green than Gore's house.

“Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into purifying tanks underground — one tank for water from showers and bathroom sinks, which is so-called “gray water,” and one tank for “black water” from the kitchen sink and toilets. The purified water is funneled to the cistern with the rainwater. It is used to irrigate flower gardens, newly planted trees and a larger flower and herb garden behind the two-bedroom guesthouse. Water for the house comes from a well. The Bushes installed a geothermal heating and cooling system, which uses about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and air-conditioning systems consume. Several holes were drilled 300 feet deep, where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees.” Even portions of the home are made from waste materials from a local quarry!


Why is Bush living this way yet touting different principles publicly? What will he do with his nearly 100,000 acres recently purchased in Paraguay?

What does he know that he's not telling us?

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:23 PM
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21. It isn't because he is environmentally aware
There are problems with water in Texas. Probably ones he caused as Governor. I will have to look into that. And considering that the land in Paraquay is near the Guarini Acquifer, I would say he knows that water is going to be the next source of wars so he wants to get a hold of as much as possible.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:45 PM
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31. Good resale value.
Bush will sell the Pig Farm the minute he leaves the White House. His "people" might go to Paraguay, but he'll move to a gated community in the Metroplex.

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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:49 PM
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33. a gated community ... with occasional visits to Kennebunkport, and to Trent Lott's porch
I'm expecting that his world will shrink abruptly as of Jan 20, 2009.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:34 PM
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37. I'm hoping he moves to a true "gated" community
If you know what I mean. And yes, he would get a good resale value for it now based on those changes, especially in Texas.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:47 PM
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32. don't forget, this is at least the SECOND house Gore has retrofitted
He also installed a heat pump in the VP residence (not that Cheney appreciates the energy savings). As far as I know, he's been tinkering up at the farm, too. Meanwhile, Bush knows so little about the technology that he wasn't even aware that the VP's place had already been upgraded with the same item. And he totally botched the explanation when some reporters asked him how it worked! My theory is that Laura did most of the planning, in collaboration with the architect. (Bush, when asked for his input, mumbled something about wanting a big bed and a showerhead with lots of power.)

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/energy.phtml
(see the home heating quote from Crawford, 2001)



As pointed out in the original post, it IS a lot more expensive to retrofit houses, than to custom-build them to LEED standards. However, we can't make a dent in this problem unless we come to grips with it, because like it or not, most of our housing stock and infrastructure is pre-1990s -- it's just not feasible to bulldoze everything and start from scratch. I think it's great that Gore is taking this on, to show that it's affordable and won't damage property values. (Believe it or not, that last thing gets brought up quite a bit whenever people try to make pro-environment changes to their neighbourhoods -- not watering their lawns, asking for more public transit, etc. -- folks just come out of the woodwork at council meetings to whine about how someone putting up solar panels or a clothesline, not having a lawn shaved down to 0.75", keeping a chicken in the backyard to eat the pests instead of breaking out the Roundup, etc.)

Having a "green" building is one thing, but unless one is also encouraging others to do the same thing, it's just a status symbol. How about a nice tax break for everyone who gets similar features installed, Dubya?

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:37 PM
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38. Do you think others in his community will get on board? n/t
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:30 PM
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22. The fact he had to get "permission" bothers me...

Good thing they recognized that solar panels is a no-brainer...and voted to allow unanimously.


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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:44 PM
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23. Yes, Let's hope he has no problem with the installation n/t
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:53 PM
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34. more flies with honey than with vinegar?
Perhaps he thought that this would make not only his local community more amenable, but also encourage other municipalities that are thinking about it? The Swift Boaters would be bound to spin anything else as "look at Al throwing his weight around, ha ha!", if he were perceived to have bent the rules using political clout.

Activists trying to get the rules changed in other jurisdictions can now say, "look, they had a unanimous vote!". (In fact, I think I will pass this news item along to the local sustainability group in my town, to encourage them in their efforts.)
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:04 PM
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26. Yeah but " I heard" he gets his hair done for about
$475 a pop. Don't even ask what Tipper pays.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:19 PM
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27. Are you kidding?
He's a private citizen. I don't care who cuts his hair, and that isn't relevant to this post.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:28 PM
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28. It's easier to get a gun than solar panels on your house?
We're doomed.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 07:31 PM
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35. What a country, huh?n/t
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