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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:57 PM
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Where are the Campus Cops when you need them
I don't blame the school president for not e-mailing everyone about the shooting immediately, but where were the Campus Cops during this? Why did they not go out on Patrol and secure all the buildings?

30 students were shot, and not one of them was Campus Cop trying to protect them, everywhere else in society, cops would have been everywhere.

There were 2 hours after the first shooting and apparently no one notified the school police either.

If I pay 40 K for tuition, I expect the campus police to protect me, not just try to stop keggers.

Also, the shooter could have stayed in the dorm and killed more people, but he left and chose to go to Norris Building, it was impossible to predict his next move.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:04 PM
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1. there is no right to police protection.
http://straylight.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/04-278.ZS.html

June 27, 2005: Castle Rock v. Gonzales, the Supreme Court found that Jessica Gonzales did not have a constitutional right to police protection, even in the presence of a restraining order. By a vote of 7-to-2, the Supreme Court ruled that Gonzales has no right to sue her local police department for failing to protect her and her children from her estranged husband
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:18 PM
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2. Then what is the point of having law enforcement?
What is the point of having a restraining order?

What is the point of paying taxes for law enforcement?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:04 PM
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8. You use a bad RW court judgement which has nothing to do with
this for your argument?

Gonzales was suing for compensation from the state because of the state's clear dereliction of duty in not responding when a crime - kidnapping and violation of a restraining order - had been committed.

It was shot down because they didn't want people suing police for not protecting them. But the argument was that AFTER THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED the police failed to do their duty by not even attempting to locate the kidnapper before he killed his children.

It was a RW court supporting an unaccountable police.

Bad judgement. But what would you expect from Scalia and Renquist?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:23 PM
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3. That is not true.
The campus cops WERE involved, but their information was that the shooter was the 1st victims boyfriend, and they search for and apprehended him and were waiting for search warrants on his residence when the 2nd round of shootings happened. They reacted promptly and well, but there were no living witnessesto the 1st shooting to tell them that they picked up the wrong guy.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:12 PM
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4. Umm, how about the Campus Patrols
or were they all too distracted to bother patrolling the other buildings, which is part of their job?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:55 PM
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5. If the suspect was in custody, why would that be a factor?
They thought the incident was over, for good reason. They were wrong, but they did nothing wrong that I can see.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:11 PM
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6. But there regular job is to patrol the buildings
which apparently was lacking - how far away was the first responder to Norris Hall?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:19 PM
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7. The Tech cops did a good job
Both yesterday and last August.

I love how the keyboard warriors know so much about this.

:cry:
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