Map: White Men & 2008 Election - Democratic Underground

kpete

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:02 PM
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Map: White Men & 2008 Election

A nice map from dreaminonempty at Open Left illustrates the vote share won among white men in the 2008 presidential election

http://www.openleft.com/diary/15782/2008-electorate-alternate-history

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YOY

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:03 PM
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1. Wow...

n.t.

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virgogal

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:07 PM
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2. Hawaii confuses me.

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NYC_SKP

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:14 PM
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6. I guess the very large support he got was from men of Asian and Pacific Islander descent...

...more than Caucasian, though I'm still surprised like you.

:shrug:

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bettyellen

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:07 PM
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10. also he did live there a while, otherwise his #s would have been lower

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NYC_SKP

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:07 PM
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3. Cool. There is almost a correlation between states with low support and states with a reputation...

...for bigotry against blacks.

I'm sure it's coincidental.

:P

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Skittles

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Mon Nov-02-09 07:05 PM
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40. it's a racism map

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blogslut

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:09 PM
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4. Pretty sad

Not surprising, unfortunately.

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Swamp Rat

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:14 PM
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5. This map makes no sense to me. What do the numbers and colors represent? What does it illustrate?

Where's the meta-analysis?

:shrug:

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bettyellen

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:08 PM
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11. Obama did lousy in the deep south among white men... not a shock to me at all.

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:59 PM
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16. and in the North and the Midwest and the West.

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bettyellen

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Mon Nov-02-09 06:53 PM
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38. in the north he often got 2- 3X the vote he did in the deepest south- so you must be looking at a

different map.. or perhaps these are stats that you find too troubling to discuss? i do think they are troubling.

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Mon Nov-02-09 07:29 PM
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43. There are very few states in which Obama received the majority of the white male vote.

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Swamp Rat

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:24 PM
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27. To me, it looks like someone just learned how to use ArcGIS

:shrug:

I'd rather see a clear delineation of votes at the county level, using more than one attribute class, presented with the provenance of the metadata (i.e. the census data, methodology, and who handled, archived, and analyzed it).

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dixiegrrrrl

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:25 PM
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7. This map could also be showing that white men are in a minority, ya know.

I would love to see the same map showing women,
showing non-white voter distribution for Obama.

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BeFree

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:28 PM
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14. well

we are. a minority. a visibly shrinking minority. shrinking, shrank, shrunk.

just afraid we'll not go down w/o a fight.

Oh, btw, women.... how is it that yall allow wars to continue? seems to me if the women of the world wanted no more wars, it would be done. women have the power, ya know... they are the majority, eh?

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dixiegrrrrl

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Mon Nov-02-09 02:04 PM
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Dupe

Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 02:22 PM by dixiegrrrrl

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dixiegrrrrl

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Mon Nov-02-09 02:04 PM
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35. Because not too many women today have read Lysistrata.

More's the pity.

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cali

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Sun Nov-01-09 05:35 PM
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8. Vermont white guys voted more heavily for Obama than in any other state

not surprised at all.

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Blue_Roses

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:04 PM
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9. well, Louisiana surprises me...

Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 06:04 PM by Blue_Roses

15-19% is okay but as someone who was born and raised there, this is actually pretty good...if you want to call it that:eyes:

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Taitertots

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:13 PM
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12. Lets see that same map for

2004 Kerry
2000 Gore
1996 Clinton

Why don't we show the Black male map of voting for Obama?
When white people vote for white people it is racism, what is it when black people vote for a black person?

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marmar

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:23 PM
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13. Goodness knows black people never voted 90% Democratic before Obama.....

Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 06:25 PM by marmar

:dunce: :freak:

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Taitertots

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Sun Nov-01-09 06:56 PM
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15. And those same people on the map voted republican before Obama too...

So what is the big deal?

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marmar

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:02 PM
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18. Because it's the only group that still votes heavily Republican.....

This is DEMOCRATIC Underground. Obviously it will be a big deal here, n'est-ce pas?

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:03 PM
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19. And what do you imagine that means? Never mind we already know.

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marmar

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:04 PM
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21. Dios Mio......

:freak:

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:14 PM
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24. You should make that your avatar.

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marmar

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:21 PM
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25. Quick with the butterknife-sharp wit, I see....

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:23 PM
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26. Imagine that no sense of humor either. Shocking.

:toast:

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Taitertots

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:32 PM
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28. What is your point?

Republicans vote republican black, white, or asian. Trying your hardest to invent bigotry is going to do nothing about that.

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marmar

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:36 PM
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31. I'm not assigning a reason to it, just noting that white males are the last demographic group....

Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 07:39 PM by marmar

..... that still votes heavily Republican. I'm sure there's a multitude of reasons why. ..... Who assigned bigotry?

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Taitertots

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:53 PM
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34. Not to specifically call out posters, but bigotry claims have been all over DU

Specifically calling out posters being against DU rules, I will be unable to create a comprehensive list. But suffice to say if you have not seen it, you must not be reading DU.

I am interested in the other reasons why certain people vote republican still. Those multitude of reasons offer the answer to how we can work to get these people to make sound decisions(Vote D). Acting as if it is a "white male" problem doesn't benefit us on our path toward their enlightenment. It makes us sound foolish, excessively devoted to racial politics, and pulling the race card.

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dems_rightnow

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:11 PM
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22. Good point.

Bush won the white male vote by 25% over Kerry 62-37%
McCain won the white male vote over Obama by 16%- 57-41%

So the map isn't indicative of a racial divide- it's a Democratic-Republican divide.

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Taitertots

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:35 PM
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29. Wouldn't that mean that more white men are voting for Obama

Then would vote for a white man of the same party. The inventors of bigotry are going to have a hard time reconciling that with their own biased views against white men.

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dems_rightnow

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:42 PM
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33. In 2008

Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 07:42 PM by dems_rightnow

They certainly voted for an African-American man in greater numbers than they voted for a white man in 2004, yes.

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:01 PM
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17. Don't you know, black people can't be racist.

:rofl: At least that's what quite a few morans have told me here.

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marmar

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:03 PM
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20. I'm shocked, shocked that you posted this !!!!

:sarcasm:

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Fire_Medic_Dave

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:13 PM
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23. The idiotic thing is that people actually believe it.

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AspenRose

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Mon Nov-02-09 02:21 PM
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37. There's a reason why I have that one on ignore

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Vidar

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:36 PM
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30. How depressing!

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Arugula Latte

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Sun Nov-01-09 07:37 PM
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32. Hooray for my Northwest peeps!

:bounce:

Oh, and Vermont -- You rawk! :toast:

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TwilightGardener

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Mon Nov-02-09 02:12 PM
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36. 40-45% of white Nebraska men voted for Obama? For a red state, I'd say

that's actually pretty good.

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Blue-Jay

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Mon Nov-02-09 07:01 PM
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39. Yeah. I'm not TOO disapointed with this map.

Democrats are never going to get the majority of white-dude votes in some states, but the results shown are heartening. It's not as bad as I thought it was going to be.

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anonymous171

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Mon Nov-02-09 07:09 PM
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41. Oh god just look at the purple. nt

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PretzelWarrior

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Mon Nov-02-09 07:09 PM
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42. yah baby. I'm in oregon and a white male. that's how we roll.

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