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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:02 PM
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Poll question: Who is more progressive?

Out of these one-time presidential candidates, whom do you consider the most progressive?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:04 PM
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1. JOhn Edwrads and Al Gore are the only two on that list who stand up to corporations.
Therefore I give them "most progressive".
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:11 PM
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10. I will not vote for John Edwards for ANYTHING.
I supported his campaign in 2008 until he pulled out before my presidential primary (I voted for Hillary). After all this deception on his part, I will not and I cannot support him for ANYTHING on DU or anywhere else. I despise the guy because I despise his lack of values and his hypocrisy.

That he mouthed a "progressive" line does nothing for me...he might as well be a ventriloquist...
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:19 PM
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13. "he might as well be a ventriloquist"
Well, more like a dummy in my book.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:29 AM
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30. The quesiton is who is more progressive, not who is a better person.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:05 PM
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2. I voted for John Kerry if "is" is doing not talking.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:05 PM
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3. I voted Gore because he's most progressive on my biggest issue...
Green energy/global warming.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:05 PM
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4. Dennis Kucinich
the others, not so much.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:06 PM
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7. +1
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:19 PM
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14. yup..dennis is the man with the realist plans...
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:45 PM
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21. There are no progressives in this poll.
Dennis is the man.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:57 PM
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23. And there I was and there I'll be
Kickin' it for Dennis again. Love that man and Elizabeth too.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:06 PM
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5. You forgot the guy who could have actually beaten the Chimp in 2004
<------ That would be him.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:39 PM
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20. +1
:)
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:06 PM
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6. Bill Clinton was a one-time presidential candidate?
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:09 PM
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9. at one point in time, he was.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:32 AM
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31. How else do you get to be president?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:06 PM
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8. Kucinich!
Dean!

:bounce:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:15 PM
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11. Oh, absolutely! It goes without saying that both Kucinich and Dean are...
... WAY more progressive than any of the characters I listed in the poll. :toast:




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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:18 PM
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12. John Edwards?
John Edwards is progressive in the same way as say, Joel Osteen or maybe Elmer Gantry, is progressive.

The correct answer is None of the Above.



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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:20 PM
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15. Kerry has a long record of progressive votes.
John Kerry.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:26 PM
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17. +1. I actually voted for Kerry in THIS poll.


Although Edwards was the only one I've ever "officially" supported.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:29 PM
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18. Hi, inna. I'm a pro-labor Democrat so will always have respect for
other pro-labor Democrats, of whom Edwards was certainly one of the best.

Kerry, IMO, is the big picture guy. For U.S. voters to vote in 04 as enthusiastically as they did in pretending Dubya was a legitimate public servant and in the same stroke reject someone as far-seeing as John Kerry is unsettling, disappointing, and kind of disgusting.

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:25 PM
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16. Dr. Dean and Kooch are the only ones who fit the question.
Other than them, I will reluctantly choose the public person (not the actual) Edwards. Talked the talk, didn't walk the walk.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:37 PM
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19. It's very difficult to tell, because the many of these people have credibility issues.
This is compounded by a tendency to change position over time. The way that Al Gore presents himself in his current form is quite different from back when he was picking Lieberman for VP.

John Kerry's role in the anti-war movement was extremely progressive, but his support of the IWR was not compatible with that history, and his presidential campaign seemed concentrated on presenting himself as the distinguished veteran in contrast to shrub's chickenhawk ass. But this embracing of militarism (coinciding with the draft Wes Clark movement, another example of a militaristic trend in the party) wasn't really anything the country needed. In fact, if the Republican were to "report for duty" and flash a military salute to the crowd, people here would rightly ridicule the hell out of them.

Not long into the primaries, the established pattern became Obama being the favorite of blue areas, and Hillary being the favorite of red areas. Obama's subsequent actions of picking the same cabinet that one would have expected from Hillary, creates questions about whether his positioning himself as the candidate of the young and the progressives actually has any substance behind it.

Similar for the rest.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:48 PM
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22. John Kerry
:dem:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:00 PM
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24. Gore hands down. Especially now. nt
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:05 PM
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25. Edwards, honestly
He may have been willing to sabotage the entire 2008 election cycle, but he was the only populist aside from Kucinich. Then again, he didn't come around to his left wing populism until about 6+ years ago. Before that he was (to my knowledge) more of a moderate democrat.

I think Obama is far more progressive than he leads on, but I think he tempers and hides it. So deep down inside Obama is probably a fiery progressive (he supported gay marriage back in 1996, when it was still a radical position. And he supported single payer back in 2003 and probably long before that, when single payer was far more radical than it is now) but he pretends to be moderate.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:08 PM
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26. Dennis Kucinich
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forum slut Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:14 PM
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27. Edwards? Really? I can see voting him as most embarassing democrat in our lifetime.
but the most progressive?
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Midwestern Democrat Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:17 PM
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28. In terms of campaign positions, John Edwards - especially economic
issues - and particularly, trade and globalization issues.

In terms of total career, John Kerry easily.



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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:19 PM
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29. Edwards. Too bad he is too much of a visible scumbag to get elected now.
:(
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