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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:39 PM
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Why does the Fed Govt keep a database of the prescription drugs we use?
The expansion of the Surveillance State is endless. Buried within an ABC report on the Virginia Tech shootings is this paragraph (h/t reader DT):

Some news accounts have suggested that Cho had a history of antidepressant use, but senior federal officials tell ABC News that they can find no record of such medication in the government's files. This does not completely rule out prescription drug use, including samples from a physician, drugs obtained through illegal Internet sources, or a gap in the federal database, but the sources say theirs is a reasonably complete search.

Is there any good reason whatsoever why the federal government should be maintaining "files" which contain information about the pharmaceutical products which all Americans are consuming? The noxious idea has taken root in our country -- even before the Bush presidency, though certainly greatly bolstered during it -- that one of the functions of the federal government is to track the private lives of American citizens and maintain dossiers on what we do.

If that sounds hyperbolic, just review the disclosures over the course of recent years concerning what data bases the Federal Government has created and maintained and the vast amounts of data they contain -- everything from every domestic telephone call we make and receive to the content of our international calls to "risk assessment" records based on our travel activities to all sorts of information obtained by the FBI's use of NSLs. And none of that includes, obviously, the as-yet-undisclosed surveillance programs undertaken by the most secretive administration in history.

It is true that much (though not all) of this data is already scattered in the hands of various private corporations and insurance companies. But, for multiple and self-evident reasons, it presents a fundamentally different type and level of threat when it is all consolidated and centralized in the hands of the federal government. Amazingly, it is the political movement that spent all of the 1990s stridently warning of the dangers of federal government power -- The Black Helicopters And Janet Reno Are Coming -- which has brought us this Surveillance State and continues to cheer on its infinite expansion.

The federal government data base which contains all of our controlled substance prescriptions, for instance, was mandated by a law -- The National All Schedules Prescription Electronic Reporting Act -- passed in 2005 by the Republican-controlled Congress (though with full bipartisan support) and signed into law by the "conservative" Leader. That law appropriates funds to each state to create and maintain these data bases which are, apparently, accessible to federal agencies, federal law enforcement officials, and almost certainly thousands of other state and federal employees (as well as, most likely, employees of private companies).

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/04/18/surveillance/index.html
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:43 PM
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1. I want an answer to this one ASAP!
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 03:44 PM by Raven
and what might be their definition of a "Controlled Substance"?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:46 PM
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9. See my response below #8
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:45 PM
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2. To help their pharma buddies figure our which ones to
charge more for?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:55 PM
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10. My thought exactly...
This info would be invaluable to the Pharmaceutical Price Stabilization Advisory Council...
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:16 PM
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13. That, and to share with insurance companies to prohibit
future coverage... I am so fed up with all this BS.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:49 PM
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3. Good Catch...
perfect question. K&R
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:52 PM
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4. This has me fighting mad.
I was told, and professionally taught, that medical and medication information was not to be released to anyone, even the government, without a signed release form. I was told that this was inviolate.

I guess it isn't.

This is a complete violation of the privacy of the citizenry and must be fixed, posthaste.
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murloc Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:54 PM
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5. I saw that to and I was REALLY suprised
I had no idea they were tracking and databasing it all.

Makes you wonder what other databasing are being built on us.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:58 PM
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6. WTF...can things get any more screwed up in this country?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:21 PM
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7. Well, one good reason would be if a democrat ever files a lawsuit against the
gov't or a republican, he/she can be easily descredited with this info....
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:45 PM
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8. I think they are referring to the controlled substances database
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 04:46 PM by hlthe2b
Those falling under schedules II-V, which would incude everything from narcotics to ADHD drugs like ritalin, adderall and sedatives like valium, xanax. HOwever, prozac, lexapro, effexor, zoloft would not be expected to be included because they are schedule VI-- these are the standard (commonly prescribed) anti-depressants.

To my knowledge there is no uniform reporting of other drugs, including schedule VI.

DEA has always kept close tabs on prescribing of these drugs and it has only gotten worse in recent years over the crackdowns on vicodin and oxycontin. Nonetheless, it is disturbing.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:05 PM
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11. one way they may 'collect' info is via Medicare Part D
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 05:07 PM by cosmicdot
when those with Medicare try to find a corporate privatized medication insurance 'plan' for the 'government' Medicare Rx program

I'm sure Scott McClellan's brother, Mark, did all kinds of damage while heading Medicare.

and, as SoCalDem posted in #2, Big Pharma probably benefits from this knowledge, too. Corporations have a closer relationship with 'our' government than 'we' do. I wrote UnitedHealth, and I got a reply back from Social Security, and wasn't told my letter was being forwarded.

Plan formularies (what meds an insurance company covers) vary; and, to see which plans capture all or most of one's meds ... one plugs the list of meds into 'the system' to find possible plans ... the info can be provided either online or on a phone to an outsourced privatized "Medicare" employee (who is their employer???) ....

http://formularyfinder.medicare.gov/formularyfinder/selectstate.asp

or the insurance companies are turning over their records to Homeland Security

or pharmacies are turning over their customers' records

or all of the above






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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:12 PM
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12. doesn't include info on those under age 65...
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 05:13 PM by hlthe2b
(with the exception of a very small group of younger people with covered conditions like renal failure).

No, I'm pretty confident they are referring to DEA Controlled Substances data.
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