Hey, I know--let's put everybody's individual rights up for a vote

smoogatz

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Wed Nov-04-09 02:37 PM
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Hey, I know--let's put everybody's individual rights up for a vote

in every state. Let's all vote on gun ownership, free speech, inter-racial marriage, privacy, religious freedom, the whole nine yards. And let's keep doing it until we get the most oppressive possible results!

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VMI Dem

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Wed Nov-04-09 02:40 PM
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1. Our President only wants certain rights put up for vote in each state.

Don't know why.

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uppityperson

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Wed Nov-04-09 02:52 PM
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2. What rights are those?

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VMI Dem

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Wed Nov-04-09 03:56 PM
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4. Gay civil rights apparently.

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uppityperson

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Wed Nov-04-09 06:07 PM
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6. Huh, I didn't know President Obama was behind all those resolutions/propositions. Thx for the info!

Seriously, I thought it was a bunch of different people, religious fundamentalist freaks, not President Obama.

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VMI Dem

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Wed Nov-04-09 06:22 PM
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7. He just stands in the shadows and says the states should decide.

Like some other bigots did back in the last century.

You are welcome! Cheers.

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FiveGoodMen

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Wed Nov-04-09 02:54 PM
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3. Seems fair

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JANdad

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Wed Nov-04-09 04:51 PM
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5. Those rights you have mentioned are

Guaranteed in the B.O.R....

Good luck with your crusade...

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Bluenorthwest

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Wed Nov-04-09 06:23 PM
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8. Interracial marriage is in the Bill of Rights? Um, no

Nor is 'gun ownership' in those words. If 'maintain a militia' is the same as 'gun owership' then 'pursuit of happiness' would have to include domestic happiness as married people, don't you think?
Or we could just put Divorce and Remarriage up for a vote. No 'right to divorce' in the Constitution. I like that one.

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X_Digger

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Wed Nov-04-09 06:32 PM
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9. Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness- Not in the BoR, either..

Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 06:34 PM by X_Digger

That's the Declaration of Independence.

There are rights protected explicitly in the Bill of Rights (press, association, religion, keep and bear arms) then there are unenumerated rights (see ninth and tenth amendments.) The BoR isn't a "the people can" document, it's a "the government can't" document. Seems like semantics until you think about the unenumerated rights.

Funny random google image results..

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smoogatz

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Wed Nov-04-09 06:56 PM
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11. Equal protection

is in the 14th amendment, but we seem to feel it's fine to bring it up for a vote at the state level. So why not gun ownership and free speech?

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X_Digger

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Wed Nov-04-09 10:41 PM
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12. Incorporation has been a mess..

.. since slaughterhouse. Always has, arguably always will be.

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smoogatz

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Wed Nov-04-09 06:54 PM
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10. Genius!

Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 06:56 PM by smoogatz

Can't get anything past you. I guess that part about equal protection under the law is just in the 14th amendment for shits and giggles, right?

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JANdad

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Thu Nov-05-09 07:51 AM
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15. I bow to your superior intellect...

But then again the first 10 Amendments to to Constitution are the B.O.R...

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smoogatz

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Thu Nov-05-09 07:53 AM
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16. And the B.O.R. is not the only part of the Constitution that matters.

So why pretend it is?

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MattBaggins

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Wed Nov-04-09 10:44 PM
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13. How about iniatives that folks have to pull thier pants down

and prove their sex to a Justice of the Peace before they can get married. Maybe even submit to blood tests and psych evals to prove they are a man and a woman.

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Life Long Dem

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Wed Nov-04-09 10:50 PM
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14. And this accomplishes what?

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smoogatz

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Thu Nov-05-09 08:51 AM
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17. If we get to have state by state votes on the 14th amendment

why not the rest of them?

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