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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:38 AM
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HOW IN THE WORLD did this country pass up having Al Gore for POTUS
and instead had 8 YEARS of Doofus W McFlightsuit?

We were such a joke.

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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:41 AM
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1. The answer is.............
Florida........Jeb Bush country
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:43 AM
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2. We didn't.
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 12:44 AM by EFerrari
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:49 AM
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3. We didn't.
The US Supreme Court double crossed the people of the United States. I am wondering why there are no impeachments for the remaining Justices who did this, who are still wearing robes?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:50 AM
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4. He was one of us and we won't ever get close to that seat
We will be killed, ridiculed or ripped off--but this "we the people shit" went out long ago!
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:52 AM
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5. The people voted for Gore in 2000

Al Gore (Democrat) 50,999,897 48.38
George W. Bush (Republican) 50,456,002 47.87


http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/prespop.htm
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:19 AM
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7. yes remember what the bumper sticker said?
"Half a million more for Gore!" :patriot:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:59 AM
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6. By cheating
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:21 AM
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8. Lieberman.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:27 AM
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9. I remember a friend saying it wasn't a big deal -- one caretaker term, then out.
Everyone underestimates the Neocon Inquisition. Once they were in, the Wrecking Crew went to work.

We're all lucky to be alive.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:52 AM
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14. That' what they wanted everyone to think: "No big deal"
It should be painfully clear to any thinking person that the Selection and pResidency of Doofus Dipshit were as calculated as they come. And you're right: we are all lucky to be alive. Unfortunately the same persons that brought 8 years of cheney*/bush* are still in play.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:31 AM
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10. After reading J.H Hatfield's "Fortunate Son" and Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy
Money Can Buy" it became crystal clear how we ended up with George Bush in the White House. The perfect storm of Machiavellian power hungry ambitious greedy types in the right place at the right time for generations colluding to take over the U.S. And based on reading those two books it was easy to predict, for example, the calculated destruction of CA beginning with the installation of DRE voting machines, optical scanners, computerized central tabulators, all with secret software, the demise of Kevin Shelley and the installation of an illegitimately "elected" Republican governor in CA, and on and on.

As long as voting belongs to the corporate sector, we will continue to yield our democracy to corporate rule and every leader will take on the characteristics of "D.W. McFlightsuit"
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:51 AM
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21. Well said. The voting machines and system remain job 1 if we want democracy.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:39 AM
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11. Involuntarily. nt
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:46 AM
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12. SCOTUS, Diebold, Lieberman, voters' apathy & disillusionment
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:47 AM
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13. The son of the former President and ex-head of the National Spy Agency became President himself when
judges appointed by his father stopped the counting of votes in the Province controlled by his brother. If it had happened in Africa, most Americans would have sneered and laughed: but because it happened here, nobody could admit it was a coup
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:53 AM
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15. This is the thread of truth for the evening, and I think you just won the prize!
:kick:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 02:06 AM
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16. It's a great line, isn't it? I wish I knew who to thank for it: it circulated on the internet
in late 2000 and early 2001. I consider it one of the best summaries of those dreadful days: it told us exactly what to expect
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 05:06 AM
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23. Best post of the thread!!
It still amazes me how many people don't even remember what happened in the 2000 "election". I lived in Palm Beach County, FL, (home of the butterfly ballot and hanging chads) then, still do, and I have a VERY good memory.

And what you said... that's what happened.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 02:18 AM
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17. Lieberman should have gone after Bush and CHeney in the debate
but instead he kissed cheney's ass.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:17 AM
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18. I agree, Lieberman on the ticket was just as detrimental as Nader's run. n/t
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:15 AM
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19. Because most American Voters thought W. was a better choice.
That should tell you something.......


mark
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:43 AM
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35. Right, that's the other half of this equation. The election should not have even been
close enough to steal, but it was.

Too many people are scared, too many are stupid.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:51 PM
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41. That was the corporate media's two part role.
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 01:13 PM by Uncle Joe
1. To relentlessly slander and libel the primary political champion for opening up the Internet to the American People, thereby keeping the race close enough for Bush to steal.

The corporate media was hugely successful in this endeavor, I believe this was in large part because they enjoyed their work. The Internet was/is the greatest democracy empowering technological innovation ever created, magnifying the peoples' First Amendment power like never before, but it was also a thorn in the corporate media's side, posing a growing threat against the corporate media's monopoly of information; and all the money, power and influence that goes with it.

In short Al Gore had to be punished by the "Fourth Estate" for championing the American Peoples' First Amendment Rights. The near two year war against his credibility beginning in March of 99 was blindly waged against him by the corporate media in spite of his warnings of the growing threat that global warming climate change posed against society and maybe humanity's existence.

2. To demean or diminish the office of the Presidency as a means of shrinking the import of the office to enable Bush's shortcomings to power. Turning the American People's most important deliberation in to a contest of American Idol. the question of who should have the power to send your family member off to die in a war was covered with all the seriousness and depth of "Who would you rather have a beer with?"

The corporate media knew that if the American People; considered the office of President as a critical or important job/role influencing their lives, the better candidate would most likely triumph and the corporate media also knew Al Gore was by far the best candidate for the office and that Bush was vastly under-qualified, but that didn't matter and as a result the American People paid and are still paying a heavy price.

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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:16 AM
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20. the same way he picked Joe Leiberman we all lost our freakin minds
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 05:03 AM
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22. As many have pointed out, we didn't.
After the ballots were recounted in Florida, it turns out that Al Gore won Florida and therefore, should have been the president. However, the US Supreme Court stopped the recount, therefore effectively electing George Bush to the Presidency.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 05:24 AM
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24. The Supreme Court selected shitforbrains instead of Gore. The vote?
Oh, that was just a formality. Didn't mean a DAMN thing, what with computer theater and all.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 05:53 AM
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25. Low info voters, Lieberturd on the ticket, the proper plants in the Dumbshine State,
Republican controlled voting company, massive voter fraud in Democratic districts (which is how they stole Ohio too), a complicit media . . .

. . . but mostly it was THESE bitches:



The democratic process which we hold dear was illegally usurped that day. At least 1 million or so people in this world would be alive and thriving today if it weren't for their idiocy.

There was no getting to three of those assholes. But Kennedy or O'Connor should have known better. Instead they joined those three DICKS and sent the country on a rocket ride to the abyss.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:52 AM
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32. The term is election fraud, NOT VOTER fraud.
The voters we defrauded not fraudulent.

-Hoot
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 06:37 AM
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26. Well, enough people in Florida thought it was better to vote for someone else
since the Republicans and Democrats were the same. I guess we found out how "the same" they were.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:37 AM
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34. No. By any measure--except bush* election logic-Al Gore won the most votes in Florida.
The Consortium proved this. Bush*/Cheney* did NOT legally and lawfully win Florida.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:05 PM
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39. The bottom line is that the election should never have been close enough to steal.
We were not at war and the economy was in good shape. It should have been Gore in a landslide. But had everyone in Florida who had not voted for Bush had voted for Gore, then there would have been no recount. It doesn't matter who proved what, the reality is that Bush served 2 terms as President of the United States.

This reminds me of what a Florida NFL coach once said about his team's loss by a bad call in the final moments of the game. He said that we had plenty of opportunities to score so that one bad call at the end of the game didn't really lose it for them. Had Democrats shown the same enthusiasm for Gore then as they do now and had they worked as hard to elect him as they did Obama, then history surely would have been changed.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:54 PM
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42. It's hard for the election NOT to be close enough to steal when your brother is governor
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 12:54 PM by Raster
in the state, the Secretary of State is your statewide campaign manager and running your election campaign out of her statehouse office with State of Florida resources. Oh, and let's not forget your lil' bro, the gov, and his sidekick, the secretary of state colluding to remove TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ELIGIBLE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS FROM THE ELECTION ROLLS. Remember the voter purges, specifically targeting those groups most likely to vote for Gore? I do. Do you remember the "assistance" rendered by the national rethuglican high command? How can forget their blatant attempts to shut down any recounts? Does the "Brooks Bros mob" ring a bell?

Ah, and let's definitely not forget the RAMPANT electoral fraud: the framing, the caging, the outright suppression. How about the use of hired thugs--both on and off the state payroll to terrorize minority voters. How about Florida State Department of Public Safety officials "guarding" minority polling places and harassing minority voters?

Seriously, do I need to continue? Florida never was "close enough to steal." That was part of the cover up. Democrats in Florida did show the same enthusiasm as Dems did when they elected Obama. They just didn't realize how badly the deck was stacked NOT IN THEIR FAVOR. And do you know why it did not happen again? Because the entire country was watching and expecting electoral fraud.

Florida was NEVER close enough to steal. Florida was a done deal. The illegal acts of the SCOTUS proved that. When all else failed and it appeared all the Florida votes would finally be counted, the rethuglican-controlled SCOTUS illegally stepped in to halt the recount.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:06 PM
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43. I don't agree, but will agree to disagree. Neither of us will change the other's mind.
Besides, you are prone to shout to make your points.

Gore should have won the 2000 election in a landslide and it wasn't just about Florida.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:30 PM
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44. Not sure what you mean by you "don't agree" - where are the facts to back up
your beliefs? looking forward to your answer, thanks!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 06:38 AM
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27. The M$M went to work for bushco. They sold him to America while
ridiculing Gore for his "wonkishness." Gore was a smartypants, they said. It wasn't necessary for a president to smart like that, they said. And too many stupid-assed Americans agreed. The sad part is, most of them don't even realize what happened right under their noses.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:16 AM
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28. Well...
The loss of his own state allowed the election to be stolen from him. He lost Tennessee over support for NAFTA, GATT, and gun control...he abandoned the very Tennessee voters who had voted him into Washington to begin with.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:20 AM
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29. It didn't
They stole the election - thank SCOTUS.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:22 AM
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30. Lieberputz and SCOTUS. nt
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:48 AM
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31. Simple. We didn't. n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:52 AM
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33. Because there is no difference between repubs and dems or Gore and Bush?
:sarcasm:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:43 AM
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36. The Evil GOP Bastards PLOTTED, SCHEMED & CONNIVED...and we didn't
and the SOB Joe threw in the towel...made Gore do the classy thing....threw up...

FAAAAK...everytime this is brought up...I cringe ....what a waste of lives, $ , and opportunity

THE GOPiacs are now paying for their delusion....
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:50 AM
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37. Lest we forget, Gore did not run a very good campaign.
Hack operatives like Donna Brazile were too much involved, and Gore's essential greatness did not shine through. We had just endured a rather sleazy, albeit prosperous, eight years of Clinton, and meanwhile Ralph Nader, despite what you think of his electoral behavior, was telling the absolute truth about the parties and the corporations.

It was way too easy for the crooks to steal the thing.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:50 AM
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38. They didn't; we didn't
He won the election.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:11 PM
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40. We didn't. The Supreme Court overrode the will of the people.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:34 PM
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45. Bush had two secret weapons.
Stealing elections and Joe Lieberman.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:36 PM
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46. We Wuz Robbed
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:36 PM
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47. He chose Lieberman.
It literally put the "Lie" into his campaign and hurt him bad. Also he rejected help from a very popular president. That's how.
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