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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:09 PM
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Just an idea - re: abortion
Why not - maybe as a branch of NOW or NARAL - an organization to finance or partially reimburse, etc. women who need an abortion.

There may be something like this already
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:18 PM
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1. Agree. If it can be done, a workaround is preferable to govt' provided services.
It would make the anti-choice crowd's heads explode.

They'd be made powerless.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:35 PM
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3. Somthing along the lines of a micro loans - Gramin- bank
but just for offsetting the cost of abortions. No federal funds. Except they would be nonprofit and so could possibly get a Tax exempt status
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:45 PM
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7. The Hyde Amendment precludes a tax exempt status n/t
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:37 PM
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10. OK, it was worth a try
I don't remember the exact language of the Jeckel and Hyde Amendment.

:rofl:
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:26 PM
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2. I was *just* thinking about this tonight!
It'd be great if there could be some type of non-profit service women could sign up for to help with reproductive issues.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:36 PM
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4. There is. It's nonprofit.
http://www.nnaf.org/
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:47 PM
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14. Thank you.
I thought there might be something out there already.
:hi:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:37 PM
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5. How about having it covered in your mandatory health insurance - rather than charity!!!
Bullshit.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:44 PM
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6. The problem is not necessarily the reimbursement
for the procedure, but instead the high cost of security and the safety of the volunteers.
If those organizations start facilitating funding for abortions--they will be threatened, picketed and some will even be killed.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:46 PM
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11. I understand the problem, but this is worth consideration
We're not talking about an operation that would neccesitate a fixed brick and mortar site with lots of staff. Send the money to the recipient via wire, or Western Union -- or even Mall Fart LOL --

Anyway, ways could be found to work around having a huge public face...maybe not all threats could be averted
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:49 PM
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15. It's really not worth consideration.
No offense intended.
Do you understand the BARRIERS that already exist for those seeking abortions?
And you think imposing MORE is okay?
Sorry--I don't. It's a fucking legal medical procedure that is nobody's fucking business the woman whose uterus is in question.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:56 PM
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17. I agree . . . however,
if roadblocks are put up we have to break them down and until they come down, we need to find a way around them.

This does not set up any road block or condone those that are set up.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:00 PM
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19. Roe v. Wade REMOVED the roadblocks
That should be the only words uttered when this fucking subject comes up. It is stare decisis.
If we tried to take the fucking guns away from the gun nuts...they'd kill you.
However, the same cadre of idiots think it is okay to take away someone else's reproductive rights and not blink twice.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:08 PM
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20. Stupac and his crew put another one up
Roe v. Wade only makes it legal ... nothing in there about how to pay for it
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:04 PM
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8. I opposed use of my tax money to invade Iraq. Congress didn't care.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:18 PM
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9. Hell, we need to pass the hat
just for Birth Control pills...I was shocked to see how expensive they have become. And I don't think they're covered unless there is some health reason for them....but definitely NOT for Birth Control.

Planned Parenthood takes donations already.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:47 PM
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12. Already many programs as such. Still the need cannot be fully met. -eom
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:47 PM
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13. Why should women not be fully covered under a supposedly full coverage plan?
I'm not paying for a plan that doesn't give me full coverage.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:51 PM
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16. I agree that it should, but even if a roadblock is wrongly put in the way
there needs to be a detour available.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:59 PM
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18. I think setting up a "detour" implies tacit agreement with legislated bigotry.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:12 PM
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22. Or you can stand there and yell at the roadblock
instead of try and think of a way to finance an otherwise legal procedure

Again, its not me putting up the roadblock. You want another analogy, then get another analogy.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:17 PM
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23. The analogy isn't what I'm taking issue with. The whole not equal under the law thing
is what's chafing me. And I don't think accepting it, detours or no detours, sets a positive precedent.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:26 PM
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25. Be upset with the idiots that are throwing stuff in the way
not at me.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:27 PM
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26. I'm not upset with you.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:23 AM
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27. I'm glad your not upset with me
Often when you put forth an idea (and this is admitedly not fully thought out) there is always someone to nay say and very often it turns ugly
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:14 AM
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28. My hope is that something like this will not be necessary and that this amendment
will be deemed unconstitutional and Hyde will be challenged and overturned as a result.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:55 PM
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30. No disagreement here
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:11 PM
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21. How about health care covers a common health care need?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 11:19 PM
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24. Hey, I'm all for that. I will advocate for it
and donate to the cause of getting it. Until then, a way around it seems to be in order.

Maybe when you are driving down a street and find that a storm has felled a tree across the road, you sit there and yell at the tree. Maybe you get out and jump you and down and yell some more.

I would rather take another route around the roadblock.

The Stupac Amendment seems to be that: a roadblock put up by people with the sense of dead wood. Maybe it can be removed. Until then, go around. sheesh!
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:19 AM
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29. Instead of Government funded healthcare why don't we all hold bake sales and go to your local
congregation for donations :sarcasm: There is the Justice Fund but it doesnt have nearly the resources the government does. How about you just get the Livestrong foundation to fund prostate treatment ?
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