Abortion is NOT a single issue.

It is a matter over who has a right to legally meddle in our legislative processes. Apparently the Catholic church openly does.

It is a matter of once again screwing over the poorest among us. The poor aren't the only ones, but who needs health care badly?? Who would be completely trapped by this amendment if they need an abortion?? In addition, because of the economy there are a lot more women who no longer have as much financial wherewithal as they did.

It is a matter of a group of legislators trying to circumvent Roe V Wade using this tactic.

:rant:

....so, yeah, it is.

that would be the dealbreaker. If they followed the Hyde amendment, that would be bad enough. However, they had to go even further.

In addition, I am damn well fed up with people pointing the finger at pro-choice people over this and wailing that we are soooooooooooo awful.

Why aren't you smacking the shit out of the people who put in the Stupak amendment??????????????????????????

It was a "deal breaker" for them too. If they DIDN'T get it they were going to walk.

Trust me, it's not just one side or the other.

there will be no way the federal government is going to permit it in a government run or regulated health care program except in the most serious cases.

Why, when discussing certain topics, like abortion, or stem-cells or anything for that matter, do we allow the religious viewpoint to have a say? Why is the standard response to critics not "sorry, separation of church and state, that opinion has no place here" and move on? Dismissed out of hand? Why? And WHY is the CHRISTIAN viewpoint, more specifically, taken into consideration? Isn't THAT discriminatory toward other religions?


Why do we even allow religion to have a say? WHY?

That view point follows the wording and spirit of Constitution. Since when has this country every done that?

I was wondering if I was the only one furious because the Catholic Church (or any church, for that matter) had a hand in this bill. Women have just been screwed by that amendment and so have the poor.

As my frind's bumper sticker says, "Keep your rosaries off my ovaries!"

Some assume that it is as easy as deciding to have plastic surgery or something.

For most people I know or have read about, it is not an easy decision. No matter what circumstances a lot of women are in, it isn't a snap judgement. There are a lot of ramifications if a woman has an abortion whether it was necessary medically or a choice.

I don't know if I would have an abortion. It is a decision someone can't really make unless faced with it. I know I would have to think about it no matter what.

Women have to deal with the fact of a profound physical change accompanied by psychological changes as well. People are just blithely saying that someone has to have a baby. Do they even give a moment's thought to what that means?