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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:48 PM Original message |
Arne Duncan draws "line in the sand". Supports education policies of Gingrich. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. k & r |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. Duncan is deplorable |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I just feel worn out.... |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. "why was he named Sec of Ed" |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
52. Bush-like cronyism at work! |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #52 |
79. "Arne, you're doin' a heck of a job!" |
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rapturedbyrobots (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. because he |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama and Duncan |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yes, you are right. And it makes me sad. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. At this point, I'm well beyond sad |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. It takes a Democrat to destroy public education |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yes. |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
6. Remember that NONE of those three stooges has ever taught in a public school |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
81. but we teachers are just supposed to |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
7. Fucking Gingrich. Stupid Duncan. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. Duncan needs to freaking go... seriously was only picked because he is a personal Obama crony |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Wasn't it said that he turned the Chicago Schools around? n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. That was said. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Here's An Article About arne and Chicago |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. He didn't turn them around; he just aimed them in a different direction |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
83. school funding did go down in schools with poor test scores |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
114. I hear ya |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #114 |
129. I only did it for a year |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
72. no. it was just PR spin. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
137. He slashed the special ed budget by 80 percent |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
10. knr nt |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. separate and unequal education |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. MTP transcript link. I hope that intervew gets the attention of some teachers |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. The administration has really crossed the Rubicon for me now... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Our party is completing the transformation. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:55 AM Response to Reply #56 |
70. Cold comfort... I still hope Obama can turn it around, |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:03 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. he doesn't *want* to turn it around, so you better quit hoping & fight. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Ah, there's the rub... what would be best? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:27 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I was under the impression you were a teacher. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #77 |
97. Former public school teacher |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. I am going Green |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #76 |
86. You basically have two choices: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Deleted message |
slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Transcript on this issue starts at the bottom of page 2, a snip... |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Here is the video |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Thanks for the video. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. I listened to his reasoning in an interview this week |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It should be called "planned" fail. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. No matter how well public schools or students do on those stupid standardized tests, |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Especially when they can raise the "standards" any time they want. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. They keep moving the goal posts |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
59. They are not "raising" anything. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
89. Raising the standards? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
110. The NCLB...national test. |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #89 |
127. What amazes me is some of the spelling you see college educated............. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
57. It has never been about good enough. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. I remember all the e-mails to the original website |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. That's a good... |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #18 |
62. Who said Obama was in favor of EFCA? Last I heard it was being just as ignored as repeal of DOMA. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
74. they didn't care about the stupid emails, do you get it yet? they have their own plan, |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
126. He's in favor of EFCA? Sure doesn't look like it. When (if) they............ |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. Funny, the only lines in the sand the Obama Admin draws are GOP! Why is that? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
108. Does seem odd. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. My children went to magnet schools. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. +1 |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I Teach In Small Town America |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. And they don't care about the urban ones, either, now that they are infested |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Good Point tony (nt) |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. That is very, very true. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. I went to first through fourth grades in small towns. It's been a long |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
87. They don't give a fuck about any of us |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. No,no, no to Charter schools |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. Thank you for explaining WHY charters ain't right |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Wow, you couldn't see what deregulation did to the economy? |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:14 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. But I keep hearing people complaining that public schools are over-regulated |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:27 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. There is no proof of what you said. |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:52 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Regarding creationism... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Yes, and those elite college admission factories are well funded, with involved parents, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
103. Public schools were NOT "drop-out" factories until they were defunded... |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. Sigh...more manufactured controversy |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #66 |
91. private schools do not accept everyone |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #66 |
93. Oh brother. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:46 AM Response to Reply #66 |
125. Parents who can afford to pay for their kids' primary and/or secondary |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
128. I think you BETTER provide some fucking "linkies", pal. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
80. We have that - but they're not magnet schools. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #54 |
88. deregulation has nothing to do with responsibility |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
109. Thanks. The magnet schools started as means to integrate the schools. |
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Lifelong Protester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
100. Thank you for that well crafted reply |
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erinlough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #100 |
121. I'm right here with you |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 10:00 PM Original message |
+1 |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
29. Excellent, as usual. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. 3 strong constituencies of the Democratic party...gays, teachers, women. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Well There Might Not Be Much We Can Do Now, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. They don't need our money, but I guess votes still matter. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
64. Don't forget unions have also been treated as unimportant |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #64 |
94. Climb on board, there's still room. n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
92. don't forget us reefers |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Actually, things are looking up for you here in Denver. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #95 |
130. It's not medicine for me, just a hobby |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. Well where are the jobs? |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
33. Arne Duncan can go to hell! |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. I just saw Duncan's MTP appearance |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Sounds Like Time For A Fuck Arne Duncan Thread (nt) |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Or a folder dedicated to this fool |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
50. Arne and David Gregory "discuss" how schools might "lie" about progress. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-15-09 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
51. Amazing, innit? ........... Newt Gingrich influincing a supposedly Democratic administration. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It's downright creepy |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Gingrich fucking up ANOTHER "Democratic" administration? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
99. Yes, it is indeed amazing. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
58. Goldman Sachs admin complete bs |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
60. None of this is about improving schools. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
61. And as the Democrats drift closer and closer to the shoals of defeat in 2010 . . . |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
65. "Race to the bottom" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
75. They don't really expect them to "follow". They expect them to fail, so they can take them over. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
68. Duncan was one of President Obama's most disappointing appointments. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
107. I agree, he was disappointing. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
71. why aren't teachers & administrators fighting this shit? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #71 |
96. I am. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. i don't mean at the level of individual schools or districts. where's the union, |
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erinlough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
111. How do we fight it? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
82. I hated Duncan the year I taught in the CPS |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
90. "Pay for Performance" is the new magic mantra for education. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #90 |
98. How do you feel about Catholic schools changing to charter on purpose... |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. If they keep the same staff and administration, that is fairly suspect. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. It is not my job to support religious schools. I don't want my taxes going there. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. Are they religious schools if they don't teach religion? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Not going to argue with you anymore. You apparently are ok |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. how are women's rights being taken away? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. The Catholic Bishops are putting 40 Democrats in a Hall of Shame |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. there are very liberal Catholics as well as conservative Catholics |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #123 |
132. I guess if they only discriminate a LITTLE, they're OK. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. I appreciate the good work they do. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 03:27 AM Response to Reply #134 |
140. That's what I figured. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Will they teach respect for women's rights? |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #106 |
113. I have no idea. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
101. GIngrich pressuring MD schools to follow Arne's rules. This infuriates me. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
118. Too late to rec - but I'll give a hearty kick - |
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Riley18 (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
119. If Arne is still in charge of the education policies in 2012, I will not vote for Obama. |
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teacher gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-16-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
122. Kick |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
124. Oh stop it, you silly PUMAs. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
131. Market based solution for health care good, market based solution for education bad? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Do you feel better when you just throw stuff out there? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. I want to know why a market based solution, the public option, is good enough for |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
136. Now that's what I call change we can believe in! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. That's real change Gingrich can believe it. Yep... |
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Bluesbreaker (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
139. Arne will destroy public education |
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