Who needs Republicans when you've got Bayh, Conrad, Feinstein and Warner?

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Bayh, Conrad, Feinstein, Lieberman and Warner form national suicide pact
by: Chris Bowers

Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 23:30


Of all the various blocs and gangs that have been formed in Congress this year, Senators Bayh, Conrad, Feinstein, Lieberman and Warner have managed to form the most regressive one yet. Currently, these five Democrats are demanding that Speaker Pelosi hand over all relevant Congressional power to an independent commission that will be allowed to slash and partially privatize Social Security and Medicare, or else they will allow the United States to default on its debt.

I am not kidding:



The Republican threats don't matter, since only Democrats are needed to pass the bill.

Let's review the threat that these five Democrats are making:

* They will allow the United States to default on its debt, which will vastly increase the overall amount we have to pay on our debt
UNLESS

* Speaker Nancy Pelosi turns over Congressional power on Social Security and Medicare to an unelected commission that will almost certainly propose deep cuts in Social Security and Medicare entitlements. Keep in mind that if deep cuts to Social Security and Medicare pass under a Democratic trifecta, the party would be doomed at the ballot box for years to come.
This is completely insane, and there is no choice but to call this bluff.

Let's see these five Democratic Senators explain to the entire nation why they allowed the country to default on its debt. No matter how safe their seats appear to be, no Senator is going to win reelection after making the entire country default on its debt Their rationale does not matter. Being blamed for making the country default on its debt-especially after all five of these Democrats voted in favor of the Wall Street bailout and are demanding that Social Security and Medicare be cut-will be the effective end of their political careers.

Go for it, guys. Form your national suicide pact. Tell the country that you are demanding deep cuts in Social Security and Medicare, or else you will personally cause the United States debt to double. Let's see how well that message plays on the air.


http://www.openleft.com/diary/15970/bayh-conrad-feinstein-lieberman-and-warner-form-national-suicide-pact

and return to minority party status.

they are Republicons and they are tied up or invested in the Insurance,Pharmecutical, or other ventures overseas(Feinstein) and no telling what else. I am waiting to see who are the newest secret Dems who are playing whack a mole or jack in the box. Every few weeks they are showing who they really are because they are really Republicons.


If any of them were my senator or congressman I would be doing all I could to run someone against them and spread the word about these lying ass people who don't care about anything but how they can see up legislation that will benefit them and their families and friends they don't care about this country. Most,have been in there too long and it time for them to go...It's too serious.

It would be almost impossible to elect a progressive to those seats. I know we all wish we could do that, but Warner and Webb are both pretty conservative democrats. Virginia is a pretty conservative state, Webb barely beat George Allen who except for his macaca moment would probably have been the Senator in 2006 and a republican Presidential candidate in 2008. The only reason that people thought Virginia had gone democratic was because they elected 2 conservative democrats, same with the recent Virginia governors, one of them being Warner. And imho Virginia went democratic for President in 2008 because George Bush really was that bad, and McCain/Palin was not an attractive combination for them.

If we go too far we will end up like the Republicans in NY 23, and Florida is headed that way in 2010.

hostage.

http://www.truthout.org/1116093

"The debt limit must be increased at regular intervals in order to allow the government to function normally because the government is currently operating at a deficit. If the debt limit is not passed, then at some point the government will not be able to pay workers and contractors. It won't be able to send out Social Security checks or make payments for Medicaid and unemployment insurance to state governments. And, it will not be able to make interest payments on government bonds, effectively defaulting on the national debt.
As a condition of allowing a bill to increase the debt limit to pass the Senate, the hostage-takers are demanding that Congress agree to establish a special commission to make recommendations for reducing the long-term budget deficit. This commission would be stacked with people who want to cut Social Security and Medicare."