Maybe I'm just depressed right now, but I'm starting to lose faith in Obama.

I think I'm starting to go through the 5 stages of grief. :(

maybe you'll come back when he's ridin' high again. My friends, family, and I are supporting him when he needs it.

He is a man you know, he is going to fuck somethings up. I'd focus more on what made you lose your faith and trying to find ways to communicate to others why that issue is important. You really shouldn't have placed that much faith in one man to fix all the world's problems. Pretending the problems don't exist though, isn't healthy.

I'm going to let you in on a secret, I still personally like the President...but don't tell anyone certain people's heads might explode, generally the people who call me a "hater"

:hi:

He has a big mess, but pretending it isn't a big mess and everything that he is doing is fixing he mess isn't good for you, and it isn't good for him either.

He doesn't need followers. He never was one. If you are losing faith in his abilities focus on the things that you like about him as a person.

There are days, I think he was over his head and really should have waited a few more years to run for President. The fact is he didn't and he wasn't really that less experienced than most of his opponents. No one can be prepared for this time in history and he has to do somethings that frankly would make you and I throw-up.

He isn't going to fix everything, but if something in our society is making you mad (you can tell I'm pissed off about finance) than you should talk about it and look for ways you can do something about it.

He needs to can his entire goddamn economic team.

or he could have heard from the Chinese, get your financial books in order or we will dump your currency and not buy your bonds next year.

...then i thought that they would not do that because it would be economic suicide for them.

I highly doubt they are that worried about that. We've been pushing them around for 30 years. In order to get as far as they have gotten, they have poisoned their environment, abandoned their principles, and tolerated our bullshit.

They have some leverage now, and they are starting to use it. It might have been an idle threat, but they are really hurting right now because of our behavior and our failure to keep our house in order.

As the Chinese curse says: "May you live in interesting times". :scared:

He needs to calm down their fears so they don't pull the plug on their own experiment.

The more we borrow from China, the more influence they will exert over our affairs.

After meeting privately with the Chinese leaders, and hearing what they have to say, it is logical for Obama to want to try and reduce the debt.

absolutely no reason the US should have such debt to China.

keep that in mind

to a kidnapper...

No one can be prepared for this time in history

And it's worth reminding everyone of it.

I love every word you just said here. I'm guilty of seizing on one thing at a time and fixating on it to death.
Pres Obama doesn't have that luxury.

Too, I've been so angry at the Wall Street Ties That Bind, and yet-- until the core system of campaign finance and lobbying is ever fixed-- which I don't expect to see in my lifetime-- well, I shouldn't have been surprised at so many of his economic picks and how it's been goin' since.

It really is possible to like the person of Obama, the man, but not all of his policies and to be angry/frustrated/worried about **issues.**

You've outed yourself Jake. You DO like President Obama.


LOL. I do too.

You don't get mad at people you don't like for doing what you think is the wrong thing. You expect it. Standing around saying well I like him, but I think that is the wrong thing to do so it is ok, is going to send someone into the looney bin eventually.

Keeps us up to date and informed.

I love his posts!

and nothing but good news. It is going to be a while, we aren't out of the woods yet.

How nice of you to say so.

Yeah, he's gonna screw some things up.

I think he really does have to learn things "on the job", and that includes making mistakes.

:thumbsup:

NYC_SKP

FDR interned the Japanese people, caused a mini-recession by listening to some idiots in 1937, ignored the civil rights movement, and more than a few times let his temper get the best of him

Lincoln had some corrupt friends that pulled some absolute incredible nonsense during the civil war and a couple of times did somethings that the makes anyone who loves the Constitution cringe.

JFK screwed up more than a few things his first days in office.

Don't even get me started on Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, or John Adams


Doesn't take away from the greatness of any of these men or the fact that the Country at the end was better for having them. Sound history also doesn't ignore the dumb things they did, for good reason, they don't want someone else doing the same stupid thing.

:hug:

that's the ticket!

:D

looks like I handled this post better than you did...oh, I obviously hate the President though.

Every now and then our guy does something that makes me say WTF?
DANA FUCKING PERINO?
You got to be kidding me.
She's a lying Bush toad-ie!
ARE YOU NUTS?

He can't be this naive or inexperienced.
Can he?

I think he understands the country is losing it's fucking mind right now.
Birthers.
Tenthers.
Oath Keepers.
Tea-baggers.
The Republicans.

He's trying to keep things as neutral as possible, despite the insanity over HCR.
I think he knows he gets that one, he can build from there.
That's the first step.

I don't know.
He has such promise to do great things but he has to calm the fuck out of people and prove that he's not what they say he is.

THIS guy has one tough job ahead.

unless he wanted to open up a Holy War over a commission appointment that he would eventually have to pick someone with a similar ideology.

He might want to slap Mitch around sometime in the future, particularly if he keeps playing games with administration nominees.

Yeah, the world is fucking nuts....and the people you mention are child's play compared to Joe Lieberman, Stupak, Ben Nelson, Evan Bayh, Diane Feinstein, etc.

At least with those people he can fight back, he's stuck with some real douches in his own party and protocal prevents him from combatting them in public.

Did you really think Obama was perfect and all of our national problems would be solved in a few months?

for many of us that the Freidmanites had Obama's ear.

chances are you're watching too much cable news. Take a breather if you are.




:)

Mostly left-wing blogs, the BBC, NPR, and DU.

Obama ran as a "moderate" politician. He is governing as a "moderate" politician. I'm certainly glad he's president, rather than McLoony, but that doesn't require me to like his policies or his politics. Or, support them because he has a (D) behind his name.

Parties are vehicles, tools, to move toward a destination. Some here think that the Party is the destination.

:thumbsup:

spews hours upon hours of anti-Obama rhetoric, manages to convince the 20%ers to rally in public against their own best interests, & is reduced to running doctored video because the facts are too damning, I'm content in knowing that he's doing the right thing.

You'll have a better chance of talking someone down.

Read up-thread, the OP has a real policy concern.

His agenda has been busted by this recession. As jobs come back so will his agenda.

:(

because it was between him and a Clinton. Wound up with a Clintonesque cabinet and Clinton to boot. That being said, I was an Obama delegate in my state.

partner is just human. Not your mother, or your father. Just another human being trying to do their best.

I always look at the a$$holes who were there before, or who could have been there, and thank god that Obama won.

it seems like once again progressive concerns are shoved aside. :-(

Well, if nothing else you will discover empathy for those who felt the same previous to you.

you've held out a lot longer than i was able to.

The entire reason I started this process was step 12.

:rofl:

:rofl:

Isn't part of the interviewing process sacrificing a small child to the devil?

My classmates who all thought they would get rich through the investment banking route can't even get an internship these days.

Be an hero.

...but I blame it on myself, my unemployment, my lack of motivation to pull myself up by my bootstraps (again), my significant other (looking for someone else to blame), my inability to cope, my lack of getting my shit together in a timely manner, my procrastination, my loss of interest in life, my desire to self-isolate, my propensity to self-medicate, my narcissistic predilection to give myself too many breaks, myself...oh did I already mention myself?... Yes,... I blame myself.

TYY

I really believe that. Give him at least another six months before slitting your wrists.

No matter which side we vote for. They're both run by the same conniving, greedy assholes who are relentlessly wrecking the entire planet in the name of short-term profit.

Nothing will get accomplished. Nothing will help. No progress will be made.

I guess he meant it when he said that.

that's what they want.

:hi:

they have all the power - I blame them for Iraq, more so than those assholes who started the lies.

:crazy:

:)

:(

wave his magic wand?

A quick fix is just that - a quick fix. It doesn't last. Obama is looking for the long term. America has been cut deeply, and it takes time for those wounds to heal.

If you're looking for someone selling snake-oil that promises to fix everything that ails you over-night; go Republican. Just don't expect his wagon to be here tomorrow morning when everything is worse instead of better.

Real, lasting change takes time. "Patience, grasshopper".

Face it, Obama is not really working for the majority of the people.

No matter home much people around here want to "believe" and have "faith" that he is.

Corporate America loves him though.

What does that tell you?

Obama needs you more than ever right now. He needs all us.

We are on the verge of passing healthcare for the very first time and its incumbent on all Democrats to rally behind him and make it happen.

If we don't, then the Republicans win.

Constantly monitoring what's going on in DC right now can be extremely frustrating and nerve wracking, especially with all the things that you and others have so rightly pointed out, especially with all the douchebags like Rahm and Summers and Geithner whispering bullshit advice into Obama's ear. It gets me a little freaked out on occasion.

I suggest that you take a short break from the mosh pit, step away from the news for a few days or weeks and spend some time on yourself. Check out some Strongbad emails or smell some roses or anything else that makes you feel good. Life is too short to go through it unhappy or frustrated. Everybody needs a break now and then to recharge and to connect with things beyond the political cesspool.

We'll be here to welcome you with open arms when you come back and if anything monumentally good or bad happens in the meantime, I'm sure you'll hear about it.

Carpe diem, brutha.