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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:38 PM
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Lesbian U.S. soldier wins bid for asylum in Canada
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 09:48 PM by Lucy Goosey
http://www.canada.com/life/Lesbian+soldier+wins+asylum/2246070/story.html

This one really makes my blood boil - Private Bethenny Smith was scheduled for deployment to Afghanistan when she was outed by a colleague who saw her holding hands with a woman on her own time. She began to be harassed on a regular basis and received a death threat. (And, for what it's worth, Smith was stationed at Fort Campbell, where in 1999, Private Barry Winchell was beaten to death with a baseball bat because he was gay.) When she asked to be discharged under DADT, she was told that she would have to serve her tour in Afghanistan first, so she fled to Canada. WTF?!?!? Now they won't let a lesbian leave the army? She's received a death threat from an anonymous colleague!

Editing to add, from the article:
While Canada has granted refugee status to gays and lesbians who face persecution abroad, Liew said she knows of no cases involving U.S. soldiers.

(Canadian Federal Justice) De Montigny also ordered the board to reconsider expert evidence that the U.S. army brass is "too often complacent and sometimes even actively participate in the harassment and abuse directed at gays and lesbians in the military."

He said Smith offered evidence the military is not discharging as many gay and lesbian soldiers as it did in the past, providing a chart showing a steady decline since 2001, due to the need for more soldiers to serve in Afghanistan and Iraq.


(Canadian lesbians, gays and transgendered people have been able to serve openly in the Canadian Military since 1992.)

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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:57 PM
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1. Good on Canada.
It's a pity that this country and it's leadership doesn't see things the same way and would allow one of its own servicewomen to be persecuted in such a way.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 09:59 PM
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2. +1
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:00 PM
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3. Oh Canada, terre de nos aieux
:)
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:01 PM
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4. Proud of my husband's country.
And can't wait to tell him about this.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:04 PM
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5. So they will keep in a Lesbian soldier who has faced death threats
but they won't kick out a psychotic dr who then turn around and kills 13 soldiers. This is fucked up!
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:11 PM
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6. Yes, not to mention that they discharge Lt. Dan Choi...
Edited on Fri Nov-20-09 10:12 PM by Lucy Goosey
...who wants to stay in, who is willing to do another tour in Afghanistan or Iraq, and who is an Arabic linguist, a Farsi linguist, a civil engineer, and a West Point graduate. He came out of the closet on the Rachel Maddow show, so I guess the army couldn't not discharge him.

Private Smith should have come out on TV; then they'd have to let her go.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:13 PM
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7. Yea, I remember the brave Lt. Choi!
Another excuse I heard for keeping the dr was they spent so much money on his education. They spent money on Lt. Choi and that didn't seem to be a problem. The military is destroying itself with it's draconian rules.
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-21-09 03:29 PM
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12. Yeah, if only Hasan had been gay, he might have gotten his discharge...
although maybe not - who knows?
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dickthegrouch Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 12:39 AM
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13. Lt Choi just hasn't received his bill yet
The US military does try to charge the person they kick out for the training received. Just adds injury to insult. Most times the service member's senator has to get a bill before congress to reverse the billing.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:23 PM
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8. actually I don't think she actually has won yet, she only won the right to have her case heard
I sincerely hope she wins though.
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:06 PM
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10. I think you're right...
I used the headline from the article, but what she won was really the right to have her case reconsidered. I do hope she wins this.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 10:59 PM
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9. Well done for her!
I'll raise a glass of Molson next time I pick up a six pack!

And she might actually get to see what's going on in the World Cup qualifications, unlike here.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 11:38 PM
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11. Ah, the sane good people to the North!
Thank you, Canada! :thumbsup:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-22-09 01:55 AM
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14. Some day, America too will join the 21st century and be a free and equal
nation.


I'm pretty sure.

Some day.
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