Cho's granddad: We are glad he is dead, son of a bitch deserved to die

No link yet. Drudge has the comments on his front page.

Forgive me if I YAWWWWWWWWWWN over this tidbit.

Having no link I don't know why the grandfather said this but if he KNEW this man was a danger.......shouldn't he have done something?

who was saying there was always something wrong with the kid & he wouldn't talk. she ended up calling him an idiot.

She mentioned how upset his mother was.

Those of you who want to make excuses for that sack of shit stupid kid just remember that.

I'm mentally ill and so was he. Yes, we are far more often the victims of crime but this kid was sick. How can you even think otherwise. Original sin and Evil don't exist. There are real reasons people do things. He just started life as a little baby, like everyone else. SOMETHING happened.
I know a LOT about mental illness, from BOTH sides of the couch. What? You think he was just mean? *snerk*
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This may be the most horrible post I've ever read on this site. I'm thoroughly disgusted.

We aren't talking about the average mentally ill person or "most" mentally ill people. We're talking about one individual. It's impossible to judge him without reference to more facts on his mental history and the opinions of medical professionals.

absolution.

Mix a little paranoia with some depression and psychosis, add bully-fueled rage, a (possibly) cold and abusive family life and access to some semi-automatic hand-guns, bake in a violence-loving culture... what do we expect??

Doesn't mean the guy is EXCUSED, but you know, there is such thing as cause and effect.

Let's see if Drudge can back that up.

for being silent even as a small child. How to build a monster and reprogram healthy brain functions.

Grandfather of shooter speaks out

Apr 19, 2007

The family of the man who carried out the massacre at Virginia Tech university left South Korea 15 years ago with little money and big dreams of a better life in America, the shooter's grandfather told two newspapers.

"They went to the States saying they wanted to raise their kids properly but I can't believe this happened," the man, who asked to be called Mr Kim, said in an interview published in the daily Hankyoreh.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/488120/1072875

Parents in hospital as grandfather tells of grief

THE grandfather of the Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung-hui said he felt grief, anguish and sorrow over the mass shooting and offered his deepest sympathies to the victims and their families.

"Seung-hui troubled his parents when he was young because he wouldn't talk, but he was well-behaved," said the man, who asked to be called Mr Kim, in interviews with two Korean newspapers.

"I don't know how I can compensate for the responsibility for raising my kids improperly. I don't know how he could do this when his parents went to a country far away and worked hard."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/parents-in-hospital-as-grandfather-tells-of-grief/2007/04/19/1176697005577.html

access numbers he can use to sell ads, but Ihave been wondering for days whyno one has interviewed Cho's parents. The medianamedthe town where they lived, butI haven'theard any one say they talked to his parents,or what they said.

Drudge--or the ones that read Drudge--obviously are ignorant of the traditional elder role/traditions in their culture.
Disappointed? I am sure he was disappointed. What garbage.
I don't see how this helped any civil discourse on this subject.
Just in case you weren't aware...Drudge lies. Frequently.

First of all, I'm not of South Korean descent, so if anyone on DU is, please add to what I say here, you obviously know much better than me.

Having said that, I do know in South Korea there is a lot of pressure to behave properly and not shame the family. This is a historic social phenomenon, and in recent years it has lessened some - but many still feel this way and if his grandfather, an older gentleman obviously, stated this, he probably still feels that way. He's angry - and understandably - he just lost a grandson for reasons he can't fathom. Partner that with a social pressure to act according to society's norms at all times and I am not surprise by his response. It adds more sorrow onto an already dreadfully tragic situation.

There's also a strong feeling of nationalism among South Koreans. They know just as much about this story as we do - they've followed it without pause. Yesterday South Korea's Ambassador to the US pledged to fast for 32 days to express his sorrow and regret. President Roh Moo Hyun sent three messages of condolence to the US within the first 24 hours. South Koreans are horrified. As stated in Time, "'It's a notion of collective responsibility,' says Mike Breen, the author of The Koreans. When a Korean does something wonderful, the country rejoices, but when one of its own goes off the rails, like Cho Seung-Hui, there's a collective sense of shame and burden (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1611964,00.html). If this is what others are feeling due to a shared nationality, what must family members be feeling?

Just like with mental illness, let's not judge what we don't fully understand or experience ourselves.

Maybe you should spin that off as a separate post :hi:

the shame of this.

1.) "in South Korea there is a lot of pressure to behave properly and not shame the family."
That same pressure exists among many nationalities, if not all.

2.) "This is a historic social phenomenon"
To behave and not shame the family? It would be in any country!

3.) "Partner that with a social pressure to act according to society's norms at all times"
I've heard the same about Italians, Germans, Irish, Mexican, Vietnamese...ad infinitum.

4.) "South Koreans are horrified."
As is the rest of the world

Welcome to the human race....

I thought it was very considerate that South Korea sent condolences right away.
Fasting for thirty days? Not sure what that helps, if anything. Nice gesture.
Mental health care for Cho, as a child, would have been a better gesture!

this kid was an anomaly, and obviously had some deep-seated problem. Most Koreans I have met are genuinely lovely people. There's bad apples in every group.

Far from it. Of course most Koreans are lovely people - that goes for all races and nationalities. Call me Pollyanna if you want, but I fully believe this.

Just some of the shit I have heard in the media, and of course the freeps.

I'm glad I didn't say anything that might have been misinterpreted - you never know.
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Yes, I've heard it too - and it's disgusting. There's no reason for it and it just shows what little minds they have.

n/t

DUers really should be embarrassed by this.

Grudge is only occasionally even mentioned here.

xxxxxx - choose one - there is a wide choice.

A kid in need.

Are you just trying to drum up hits for that POS?

The story seems a bit dubious. From the mirror UK - says he was autistic. First I've heard of that...

that spreading his deceptions is helpful to anyone, other than those whose interests depend on spreading lies.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=we-are-glad-he-is-dead-by-cho-s-family--&method=full&objectid=18931479&siteid=89520-name_page.html

THE grandad of university mass killer Cho Seung-Hui said last night: "Son of a bitch. He deserved to die.

"It's better not to have such a child in the family." And he dismissed Cho - diagnosed with autism as an eight-year-old - as "a trouble-causer who has destroyed his mother's life". Kim Hyang-Sik, 81, spoke at his home in South Korea after seeing the video Cho made of himself holding a gun to his head.

Student Cho, 23, shot dead 32 at Virginia Tech University before killing himself.

Right up there with faux suxs and newsmax-min! :puke:

to see what i'm guessing is an old-school, hard-line patriarch put distance between himself and a family member that put the family name in ignominy for decades to come

"a trouble-causer who has destroyed his mother's life".

Why is there only mention of the mother, not the father? The great aunt interviewed said essentially the same thing speaking only of the mother. Can someone who is versed in Korean culture enlighten men on this?

Unless they're a harm to somebody, I really think public attention needs to leave this family alone.

If I ever quote Drudge, slap me.

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