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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:32 AM
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The fix is in: Baldwin is a strong liberal and has spoken against Bush and the war
many times.
Do not forget for one moment what we are seeing this morning.

It is the big media slap down at play.

NBC (MSNBC) et al, are sending all of us a message from the little pork chop wizard hiding behind the drap......and the message is......Don't mess with us because we are the GOP and we pull the media strings.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:34 AM
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1. and they are willing to break Court orders - and NBC even plays tape n/t
n/t
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:36 AM
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4. Well that says it all doesn't it? One thing we can count on, is that Baldwin is a fighter and
will not take this lying down. I hope.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:34 AM
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2. What the hell are you talking about?
Baldwin?
pork chop wizard?

Pretend that not everyone is watching TV.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:36 AM
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3. I'm reading it as another Rove thing
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:40 AM
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8. The White House deflection machine is busy sending those
emails and faxes out...

Edwards haircut, Baldwin scolds his daughter, Reid says we lost the war!!!

And the media is (again) doing their bidding.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:37 AM
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5. Amen!
What a completely incoherent post!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:44 AM
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9. "Visitation" date via cell phone - cell turned off and a rant that mother Kim is evil and
kid is treating Dad like shit and Dad will straighten kid out in next visit - in strong but not screaming tone - is left on voice mail.

Kim gives tape to media and NBC gives it 5 minutes because Baldwin dares to be a progressive liberal that GE does not like.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:59 AM
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18. And yet he works for GE
on one of their shows, 30 Rock.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:01 AM
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20. Not a problem - Jack Welch had GE doing things for reasons other than money n/t
n/t
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:02 AM
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21. If GE hates Baldwin, why does Baldwin work for GE?
You do realize he is the star of one of their most important shows, right? 30 Rock?
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:44 AM
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26. Well 30 Rock ain't doing so well.
Which is too bad because it's a great show!

I remember GE always hated Letterman as well. Remember when he took them a fruit basket and they kicked him out of the building? Priceless! :rofl:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:57 AM
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32. Actually, it's doing very well. It just got renewed. NT
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 02:49 PM
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36. The show was ranked 80 for November sweeps.
Which isn't very good, unfortunately.

I think the renewal was in hopes that more people will discover the show eventually. It's a good show and I'm glad NBC is taking the time to nurture it a little. Seinfeld was the same way. It took folks years to discover that show. But when they did, it was worth the gamble keeping it on.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:51 AM
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12. It's related to this...
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=346082c9-5e67-4212-bc42-ec3213e025c6

While I'm sure that Rove is going to take every advantage of this, I'm not yet convinced that Rove had Baldwin's voice digitally synthesized to create this, or that he used mind control drugs to get Baldwin to say this. Until then, I'll think I'll find it somewhat difficult to see Baldwin as the victim of the "pork chop wizard" instead of a man who would bully his 11 year old daughter on an answering machine.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:00 AM
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19. It's almost a certainty that Kim Basinger leaked it
They have been trying to ruin each other's life for a few years now.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:16 AM
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23. I have no doubt that she did
but IMHO, neither Basinger's or Rove's motives (though I agree with a poster below, the WH has MUCH bigger things to worry about than Alec Baldwin) excuse what he said.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:39 AM
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6. Ah yes, but the weasel hides at midnight
And the elevator is broken.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:45 AM
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10. The blue fish swims upstream.
:thumbsup:
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:37 AM
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24. The lemming trips the light fantastic.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:53 AM
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13. Ah, yes, but in whom does the weasel hide at midnight, and
how does it get up if the elevator is broken?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:40 AM
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7. The cornflakes are in the bowl, repeat...
The cornflakes are in the bowl. :shrug:

--IMM
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:49 AM
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11. Here is a link for those who do not know what you are referring to:
Although they must live in a fishbowl if they did not hear about this story. It is plastered all over the media quite shamelessly. Disgusting display and it makes you feel like you are listening to your neighbors private argument.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18220258/
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:16 AM
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28. that's pretty tawdry in giving that to the press
it's not like there was a threat of violence or something...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:21 AM
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29. Or they WORK
I hadn't heard about it and I'm a news junkie, but I do work and can't watch news 24 hours a day.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:54 AM
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14. I'm guessing that Alec Baldwin is not the White House's chief concern right now
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 07:55 AM by theboss
Just sayin'....

Kim Basinger almost certainly leaked this to raise the stakes in their never-ending blood feud.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:54 AM
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15. OMG , yes! It makes perfect sense now. It was Rove on the answering machine!
:rofl:
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:57 AM
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16. BBBWWWAAAAHHHHAAAAAAA
personally I think ROVE is really the father of that child and this is a deflection from that

gawd, get a fucking grip on reality
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:57 AM
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17. Is this about his really rude
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 07:57 AM by Dorian Gray
comments to his eleven year old daughter?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:04 AM
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22. Oh, Stop It
Baldwin is a celebrity with a history of temper problems. Period. The guy needs help.


My dad was a total fuck-up in many ways, but he would never have left such harsh, inflicting words with his children, no matter how much he may have hated our mother.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:40 AM
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25. Yep
They probably paid the wife. That new show he is on takes jabs at Bush administration. I wonder if they will try to attack Tina Fey.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:47 AM
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27. LOL! Yes, I'm sure they paid Kim Basinger to leak her ex-husband's message.
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 08:48 AM by PelosiFan
:rofl:
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:24 AM
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31. She needs the money!
:rofl:
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 11:23 AM
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30. And he's also a goober who doesn't understand how voicemail works
--or parenting for that matter.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:05 PM
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33. An idiot is an idiot
I'm sorry that someone saw the need to release that tape, but Alec Baldwin is an idiot for talking to his daughter like that.
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:47 PM
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34. I think some people give the Bush administration
way more intelligence than they actually have:tinfoilhat:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 12:52 PM
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35. Clearly, Karl Rove arranged Cho, too...
Can't we have a separate forum for celebrity tabloid bullshit?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 07:27 PM
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37. cp /dev/zero /dev/sda will solve all of your problems. -nt
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:24 PM
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38. Yep. This is Rove's evil work, for sure.
Just like when he arranged for Britney Spears to flash her crotch to distract everyone from the Fitz investigation.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:27 PM
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39. uh-oh, now the paranoid conspiracy threads are starting up
As predictable as the sun rising in the East.

I predict a lot of agreement in this thread

:yoiks:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:32 PM
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40. I'll bet Mrs. Giuliani #2 can relate similar exchanges
regarding her husband's custody quest and visitation fights. Their children are no longer on speaking terms with their father. Too bad it wasn't his tapes that were publicized.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:36 PM
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41. Bullshit
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:38 PM
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42. have you acted on 420 today?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:42 PM
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43. Hail all powerful Rove!
It's amazing, he gets the mom to release a voice mail left by Baldwin. God damn amazing. That Rove can do anything. :eyes:
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 08:54 PM
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44. I'm sorry but
any father who calls his 11 year old girl a "pig" deserves to be embarrassed. Unless he is standing in her bedroom doorway and telling her to clean her room.

vanlassie
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-20-07 09:31 PM
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45. I think it's more to do with the irresponsibility of Kim Basinger and
Edited on Fri Apr-20-07 09:33 PM by AZBlue
her and Alec's need for therapy to straighten out their anger issues. They both need to stop acting like spoiled children and stop using their child in their game against each other.

As for the media coverage of it, we're sadly a society of celebrity watchers and that's far more important than real news to a lot of Americans. Look at how much we had to hear about Britney's shaved-head incident - not nearly as much on Alec's rant as that. I don't think he's being singled out.
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