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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:54 AM
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If Afghanistan is soo crucial to national security then there should be a military draft
30,000+ increase ain't enough to "win" in a country like Afghanistan....

If this is the "right war" there shouldn't be hesitation about total mobilization, right?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:13 AM
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1. Nope, it's time to go shopping,
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:24 AM
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2. chuckle....
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:27 AM
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3. The volunteer Military is not short of troops. If he wanted to he could send 150,000 over there but
It seems like the problem is with planning, having a goal and understanding the population.

The question is are we over there to defeat the taliban, defeat the insurgents, defeat al qaeda, build a nation, free women from oppression, etc?

Quite frankly I don't think the President and war planners have a clue, they just want a presence in Iraq and Afghanistan. Nothing has changed since GWB.
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:42 AM
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6. troops
We are there to prevent the alquada and talibans taking over Pakistan and it's
nuclear power ... that's why!!!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:27 AM
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4. This is why there will never ever be a draft. Ever. nt
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:41 AM
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5. And additional tax on the top 1/2 of 1 %
to pay for the escalation.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:25 AM
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7. There should be a military draft anyway - shared sacrifice
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:40 AM
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8. If you like, I can give you the contact information for
a recruiter in whatever area you live.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:42 AM
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9. Afghanistan is a landlocked country, hundreds of miles from the nearest seaport
You can't afford to move many more soldiers into Afghanistan or support them while they are there.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:46 AM
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10. We have two wars going without a draft -- and warmongering still vs other nations . . .
and you want to give them more manpower???

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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:56 AM
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11. Everyone seems to remember the political pressure caused by the draft but forget
that it provided enough draftees to keep 500,000 troops in Vietnam for years and get 58,000+ of them killed. The draft also provided plenty of cannon-fodder for Korea with not resulting political pressure.

While our current wars are much more expensive than Korea or Vietnam (draftees are pretty cheap and easily replaceable), there is something to say for using fewer but more highly trained troops who, at least to some extent, join the military voluntarily rather than large numbers of relatively poorly trained draftees. We've had 4,500+ killed in Iraq and 900+ in Afghanistan.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:11 AM
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13. Agree -- and ...
your post revisits the issue of our troops still stationed all over the world --

but I'm not sure what those numbers are now?

I'm quite certain we haven't withdrawn any of them/?

And I'm quite sure that plans will be to stay in Middle East -- FOREVER.

But you made me wonder how they are keeping all of those bases supplied with troops because

I would think that anyone enlisting would be fearful of being sent to ME??

I'm wondering if Blackwater and privatized military is also taking over there??

I'm also wondering what the death toll of privatized troops is vs our own troops?

I'm not watching TV except C-span . . . so if anyone is answering those questions elsewhere,

it would be interesting to know.

War is a good way to bankrupt our Treasury and end democracy --

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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:00 AM
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12. Shared sacrifice! A draft with no deferments for such things as
anal cysts or vague "other priorities" would involve more of the children of the folks who are making these decisions. This might give them a different perspective, knowing that their own relatives might be in harm's way.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:12 AM
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14. The elite have always bought their way out of war . . . and they will continue to do so --
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