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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:08 PM Original message |
How it was easy to get the ban on late term abortions...our party went along. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you, madfloridian! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. Blue Dogs |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. 2nd Trimester |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Voting their constituency |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I was going to point that out. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Safe, legal and medically necessary |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. You are absolutely right |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Steve McMahon - yesterday |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. We can't |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
65. Seriously - Steve McMahon |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. Actually I pretty much agree that the Blue Dogs are a problem as well. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. Red state Ds represent their socially conservative constituents. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. The Red State excuse is quickly wearing thin. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
67. do you think the Democrats would have the majority |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
68. Right is right? Do you have some scientific test for that? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. 82% think a woman's health should be considered. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. The party went along |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. The "democratic process" screwed women. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Not sure I understand |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It left about 50% of the country behind. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. What 50% are you talking about? (nt) |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
77. The overwhelming majority of women and a significant portion of the men as well. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yet, we get flamed no end if we dare suggest on DU that Dems |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. They've been here for years |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. "They" were NOT wrong |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. The fact that the republics are criminally incompetent |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. They hardly sold anyone out |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Please show proof of that 70% who supported the ban. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Here you go |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You made my point. They voted against their constituency |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Not necessarily |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. It does not matter who agrees....it takes away the right of a woman |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. How does it do that? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. So you think the courts and Congress have a right to limit a woman's options? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. That's what Roe versus Wade says |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. There should never have been a reason for Roe v Wade. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. No reason for Roe versus Wade? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I did not say that. You are misquoting |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Nice dodge |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You are misquoting |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. I am not a baby incubator |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Fair enough |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And don't say polls support no exclusion for health when they clearly do... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Fair enough |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. No, the vast majority think a woman should have the health option. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. But what about this question? |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. The 2006 plan was brilliant |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. No...you cannot point to a majority as proof of good strategy |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
71. yup, party before country |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. What's Herseth supposed to do? |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. the state recently voted to over-turn that law |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. 56-44; on a complete BAN |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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DawnIsis (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. I have been so upset since I heard this ruling.... |
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scorpiogirl (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I have been upset since this too and I have already had my kids |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. You made a very good point about required medication . |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
66. Sorry |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
80. Paranoia will destroy ya. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Read my post at the very bottom of the thread. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Fetal Dismemberment - are you friggin' serious??? |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Let me K & R this.... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
37. Recommended |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
40. i am definitely pro-choice, but I do believe that we have to allow |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Varied opinions on the rights of women? That is my question. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
43. One other matter needs mentioning in relation to your post |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
46. To be accurate, Edwards, Kerry were at California State Dem Convention and Frist |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
73. And Kerry voted AGAINST the Conference report |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. any democrat aligned with the DLC is culpable |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
53. Ob/Gyns oppose the ban. Post at Kos. |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
54. 100% Correct. And note this: Babs Boxer may be introducing her |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
55. The thing is, what do you do when women in red states |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. That is not always true. We just assume they approve of the ban. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
56. Don't look now, but this is why a lot of people have gone third party.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I am not an apologist for anyone or any party. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 03:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
64. I respect that. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
62. Like they went along with the Alito and Roberts appointments. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 12:52 AM Response to Original message |
63. Here's post about Ginsberg's dissent, just posted here. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
74. Clinton voted NO both on the bill and the conference report. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I am not sure what you mean. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. This is a picture of her and you focus on the DLC. However, neither Reid, Leahy, or Byrd are |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-21-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. I posted Ford's vote first and I stated why. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
79. Chilling effect of abortion ban more evident in these articles. I was not aware of some of this. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. OMG! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-22-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Apparently has to do with rights of fetus above rights of mother.. |
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