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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 08:42 PM
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Yeah I'm naive, a dreamer, wishful thinker, whatever you want to call me
But the fact is I will never stick up for this war on terror no matter who is in office.

Do I have a better solution? Oh hell yes, but it's the solution of a dreamer.

I mean what do I know right? A guy like me thinks that terrorism isn't about the Koran and killing all the infidels, a guy like me doesn't believe that they "hate us for our freedom". A guy like me thinks that maybe, just maybe it's a bit deeper than that. That maybe the terrorists hate us not for our freedom but for our greed. Maybe they are pissed off because the CEO of Goldman Sachs has gold fucking faucets on his yacht yet there are homeless children in nearly every country in the world. Maybe they are angry because we spend our money coming up with better faster ways to kill while people all over the world suffer. Including here at home.

I see no short term solutions but what I do see is us continuing in the same direction that got us here in the first place, and that is no solution at all.

Of course my "dreamer" solution would be to instead of spending BILLIONS killing them and destroying their countries we could send engineers over there with the BILLIONS, to build their countries up instead of tearing them down. Instead of pointing a gun at them we reach out our hand and give them a lift up. Now I may be naive but I'm not stupid, you go in somewhere with money and engineers and the military goes with them for protection. I know if I saw a tank on my street and they were looking for "terrorists" I'd lock my damn door and arm myself. However if they were there to protect the guy filling in the pothole in front of my house I'd be bringing them fucking coffee and donuts.

But we as Americans seem to be buying into that whole "fuck you, pick yourself up by your bootstraps" "I got mine, fuck you" mentality. Even on DU there is speak of "those people" and how "those people would never allow a democracy in their country." Well fuck all, I don't give a shit if they don't want a Democracy. I just don't want them killing Americans because of our greedy corporations and government. There is no way to completely eliminate terrorism, but you can reduce it to next to nothing in two ways. The first is to keep killing them all... perpetual war forever. The second is to eliminate the root of the damn problem but that is impossible when the media, and the government lie about what the problem is. Frankly when you start looking at the circular logic at work here it's enough to drive a person mad.

Now I'm sure there will be many here to tell me what an idiot I am. And you may be right. But I do know this, until we get campaign finance reform, until we get rid of lobbyists until our government goes back to working for us instead of the corporations until we remove the FUCKING MONEY FROM EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, we will continue to shit all over the less fortunate and terrorists will continue to have plenty of recruiting material and this "war" will never end.














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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 08:44 PM
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1. Righteous Rant!
Thanks for that!
BHN
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 08:47 PM
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2. makes sense to dream
and work to make those dreams real
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Frosty1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 08:48 PM
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3. n/t
:woohoo:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 08:48 PM
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4. I hear you!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 08:50 PM
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5. We did increase humanitarian aid
That's part of what we did back in March and what NATO agreed to help with at the time. Instead, the media said Obama failed to get help in Afghanistan because they didn't commit combat troops. Lots of building is going on in Afghanistan. I don't post it because who needs to hear that they're spreading bush-lite propaganda.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:00 PM
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6. .
Inside a Dreamer's mind
A vision starts to grow
A seed of Rhyme that's sown in time
That realists never know

But all of us are artists
And poets when we see
That all we've built began as seeds
From dreams of what could be
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:02 PM
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7. Money makes the world go 'round...
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 09:02 PM by Hydra
Face it, it was never about fixing the problem. I talked to someone who was an anti-terrorism expert before all of this was popular. You know what he said? We wouldn't have this problem IF WE QUIT LYING TO PEOPLE AND TAKING THEIR STUFF.
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C_Lawyer09 Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:19 PM
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8. I agree with you on campaign finance reform and lobbyists
Understand that the United States isn't the only nation suffering form al-Qaeda attacks, and our standard of living, or the way we live (as infidels to al-Qaeda)will not stop radical jihadism. If we are to view the impact of Jihadism on a more local level, we can look to Indonesia, Phillipines, and Thailand, Malaysia. I do agree with you that our money toward international aid needs to be increased greatly from the current 0.7 percent of GDP. I think it was the 1992 Rio Conference in which the Western nations agreed to increase international aid to 2%. Of course that has yet to happen.
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