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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:29 PM
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Democrats Lash Out At Obama Over Health Care Disappointments
Congressional Democrats are starting to voice their anger at President Obama over the way health care legislation has been compromised, blaming him for not fighting harder.

"The president keeps listening to Rahm Emanuel," said Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.). "No public option, no extending Medicare to 55, no nothing, an excise tax, God!" he exclaimed about the Senate health care bill to Roll Call. "The insurance lobby is taking over."

Rep. Dave Obey (D-Wis.), told Politico of Senate delays, "It's ridiculous, and the Obama administration is sitting on the sidelines. That's nonsense."


While many House Democrats have expressed anger with the Senate for the watered-down bill, Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) argued that it was really Obama who let centrists take control. "Snowe? Stupak? Lieberman? Who left these people in charge?" he said. "It's time for the president to get his hands dirty. Some of us have compromised our compromised compromise. We need the president to stand up for the values our party shares. We must stop letting the tail wag the dog of this debate."



Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) similarly suggested that blaming Lieberman was ignoring the real culprit -- Obama.

"This bill appears to be legislation that the president wanted in the first place, so I don't think focusing it on Lieberman really hits the truth," said Feingold. "I think they could have been higher. I certainly think a stronger bill would have been better in every respect."

As Politico's Craig Gordon noted about the president's health care maneuvering, "Time and again, rebuffed Democrats' requests to speak up more forcefully about what he wanted -- a strategy that allowed Obama to preserve maximum flexibility to declare victory at the end of the process, no matter what the final bill looked like."

Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), pointed to polling that suggests Democrats will face trouble with their base if they don't deliver a strong bill. "Thirty percent of Democrats will not come out and vote if there is no public option in the health care bill," she said. "What does that tell you?"

*This article originally reported that Rep. Obey said "The White House has been useless." That was Transportation Committee Chairman James Oberstar.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/16/democrats-lash-out-at-oba_n_394424.html
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:30 PM
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1. Rahm runs the show
reminds me of Rove..is Rahm Obama's brain now?
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:33 PM
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2. This is helpful

:popcorn:
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:33 PM
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3. Obama screwed up, big time.
30 percent of lost Democratic voters is not something Dems can recover from.

They need to clean this mess up, and they'd better do it quickly. Obama can't afford to run off more supporters. They need our votes, they need our money. They're going to have to earn it, people are sick of being lied to and taken advantage of.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:34 PM
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4. Or vote for a repug next November
Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), pointed to polling that suggests Democrats will face trouble with their base if they don't deliver a strong bill. "Thirty percent of Democrats will not come out and vote if there is no public option in the health care bill," she said. "What does that tell you?"
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:37 PM
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5. We ARE angry about his non-handling of this business.
He may only be a one term President because of it......

But we will live with the consequences of a lousy so-called health care bill.

Unless it gets changed down the road, which I very much doubt if the Republicans become ascendant again.

K&R




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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:38 PM
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6. Anybody can say what they want about Conyers but he is
ON POINT!!!!:thumbsup:
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:40 PM
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7. Can you put some add ons next year?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:06 PM
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9. No - the Rule is Democrats are only allowed to talk about health care once in a generation /nt
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 04:41 PM
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8. Can you put some add ons next year?
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:18 PM
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11. How? We have the strongest Majority in over a decade and stand to lose much of it next year
If we can't get something accomplished with the super majority we have, how does anyone expect us to add to the bill when we will have much less of a majority if we even have one at all.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 05:07 PM
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10. So Conyers, Obey, Feingold & Weiner Should All Vote Against It If They Don't Think It Is A Good ....
bill. But I bet you that they will all vote for it.
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