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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:49 AM
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Where can I find FACTS about the proposed HCR bill?
No spin, just facts. I would like to read this stuff for myself.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:06 AM
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1. Here are the links.

This is the Senate bill as it came to the floor for debate:

http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/patient-protection-affordable-care-act.pdf

This is the House bill that passed:

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:44 AM
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4. Dear Dog.
Wow, no wonder nobody's read the thing. 2000 pages? That's right up there with "War and Peace," yes?"
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:13 AM
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2. It's refreshing to see a request for the facts
here is a pretty good summary, although it's dated and the public option is no longer in the Senate version

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977887121
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:47 AM
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5. Thank you! This, I can read.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:15 AM
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3. K&R for a request for facts
...and the links provided.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:55 AM
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6. and the irony is they are changing as it goes, so really the facts keep changing

I don't know how the CBO could even be giving estimates when there is no finished bill and it keeps changing terms - a complete joke
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:12 AM
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7. It's hard to keep on top of this.
And everybody's watching the sausage being made.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:47 AM
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8. lol @ sausage comment

and unfortunately the ingredients being pushed in that everyone is going to eat are around the corner from view
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