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Regardless of the nasty personal remarks about him that have been emanating from the White House, Dean wanted to emphasize that he still supports the president. He dismissed any talk of another run for president. "I plan to support President Obama vigorously in 2012. I think he's done a terrific job on things like the environment and restoring America's name in the rest of the world," he said. "I remember what it was like to have George Bush as president and I'm not on a mission to destroy the Democratic Party, having rebuilt it. But we didn't elect Democrats to pass crap. We elected Democrats to make a difference"

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Link: http://www.salon.com/news/healthcare_reform/index.html?story=/opinion/conason/2009/12/18/dean_and_healthcare

Thank you Dr. Dean!

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Thank you Howard, keep telling it! :kick:

by calling each of our senators and complaining about it. If we call them and complain that it's worthless and it should not be passed, and the Right Wing folks are also calling the same senators complaining about different reasons, they will get the message that no one likes this piece of refuse and that it won't pass. The R's have NO - ZERO - NADA senators voting for it.

How many times have we seen the usual corporate sellouts on the R side team with Dem sellouts and form a block that can't be stopped? This is NOT the case here. If we call and write and flood the switchboards of the senate, and the Right Wing is doing that too (how odd that they don't like this bill either), it can be stopped. Let's use them to get our way for change.

I'm doing that with Boxer and Feinstein - let's make it a 50 state campaign.

If we do this, we can not just be proud of Dr. Dean, but he will be proud of us too!

Yes we CAN! (Stop this piece of crap)

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buttons over her little boy children. I love Dean.

... some of us have been waiting since 2003 :-)

Democrats are supposed to work for us not for the corporations. That's traditionally been the Republicans' job. These days, I'm not so sure.

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I must be channeling the good doctor.

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This is about settling for crap instead of the eminently achievable.

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I love that logo.

We all adopt "yeargh!" as a positive statement. Take away the naysayers ability to use it against Dean.

YEARGH!!!

...Having rebuilt it"

Go Dean!...It's about time he received credit PUBLICLY, for what he's done for the PARTY...Even if he claims it himself -- It's TRUE.

I do believe he's done more for the party than Obama, thus far.

it's much harder to rule than it is to preen and make bold proclamations.

Keep them coming. It's too hard to rule! Even with a majority!

Your facts are that it is hard to govern. That is an excuse for why Obama is not governing effectively.

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On this debate than Barack Obama. Election or no election.

Obama has been modestly working behind the scenes (with insurance companies and Big Pharma).

I doubt that any democrat in office minds that Dean speaks his mind, as those who have been elected often don't feel free to. Maybe I should be more cynical, though...

their minds.

But I think the condemnation of Dean by the Obama Administration and John Kerry indicates that many who have a stake in the status quo do mind that Dean is speaking out.

Sometimes a cynic is just a skeptic who has been keeping good notes.

is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. - George Bernard Shaw.

And Howard Dean was elected as chairman of the Democratic National Committee and, during his tenure, developed a successful strategy to return Democrats to the majority in the House and Senate. I'd say he's earned a right to an opinion.

but he didn't do much except pass the "Dr. Dynasaur" program which ensures near-universal health coverage for children and pregnant women in Vermont. I mean, it's not like the uninsured rate in Vermont dropped from 12.7% to 9.6% under his watch or anything...oh wait, it sorta did. I guess it's NOT hard to rule as a Democrat after all. You just have to WANT to rule as a Democrat. Funny how that works, isn't it?

It's too bad he sucked so bad when he led the DNC though. With his leadership, we lost both the House and the Senate. Or not. Damn that Howard Dean. Making bold proclamations while never accomplishing a single thing.

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it's almost like a "talk like a pirate" greeting. :)

YEARRGH!

at posts. No one said it was easy to be president. But this president has made every decision to help big business. If you dispute this, go for it.

He knows good and well that if this doesn't pass, it will not come up again until 2011 MAYBE. And then if seats are lost in 2012, it will definitely not pass as public option or anything even close to what it is now. How many votes does Howard Dean have in the senate? Oh that's right... none.

Now that's what a real Democrat sounds like! Keep speaking out, Howard. We need you!!!

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Can't be fun for him watching these majorities he helped elect do this to the people and the party.

My thanks to Dr. Dean for using his position in the public eye to speak for so many who are not being heard.

those elected. What the hell is wrong in this country when corporate donors are dictating the course of legislation? You can't claim to say no to lobbyists, but say yes to the biggest mandated money-maker for big insurance ever! It's the same thing, Mr. President, and we the people are united on this.

I would hardly consider Ben Nelson to be a Democrat, even though he has a D after his name. Stupak either. So, when we get around to electing real Democrats, I guess we can have that conversation.

for standing up to the party leadership who want to pass this POS and crow about how wonderful they are.

Kill the bill.

Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

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-Laelth