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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:07 AM Original message |
America practices FALSE Capitalism. |
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TwixVoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. You are totally right |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. My friend from China |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. For all its faults, China does have real capitalism. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. An environmental catastrophe. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Which is exactly why it should be left to the hands of individuals. |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. They're also free to sell stuff that is illegal... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm in sort of a mushy middle here |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I agree and dissagree on some points. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
58. regulations should be in place to protect the public |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I think we agree, but are coming at it from two different angles. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. we need agencies to test and protect the population from tainted products |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. That's different than regulation as I'd define it. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. So you are saying artists, musicians, writers, poets has not right to profit from his creations... |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. They have a right to profit from their creations. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Then who would? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. for how long? copyright law was changed (i believe under clinton, though i can't remember exactly) |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I understand your concern. |
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metalbot (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Let's look at the book topic more deeply |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I think the issue at hand here... |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. The form of copyright you're talking about is one thing. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Exactly. |
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cark (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. What if they don't want to do concerts? |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I understand that argument completely. |
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cark (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. IP |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. IF this idea came to pass then the only thing on the radio would be |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
6. Capitalists eventually buy themselves a government. That IS "true" capitalism. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. How is that anything but a transfer of power? |
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WT Fuheck (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
8. corporatism is the inevitable result of capitalism |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I disagree because corporations are government created. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
17. kick |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
18. AND the "free market" is a colossal lie. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Because they are liars. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
19. Wrong. America practices state of the art Capitalism. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I disagree: It's governments natural tendency to move toward monopoly and imperialism. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Governments do what their owners demand. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. We can agree on one overall point. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. How do you get them to change the rules? |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. We agree AND dissagree at the same time. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You are making this way too complicated |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. To address your points one by one: |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. So, libertarian then? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Us Left-Libertarians are suprised to hear that we don't exist. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. You're an oxymoran |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I am opposed to capitalism in the strict sense. I am however, for a free enterprise... |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You fundamentally do not understand my point of view. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Capital grows, |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Here is why what you're saying doesn't make sense. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. What you advocate is pure laissez-faire economics |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. That poster is a Marxist ideologue, you won't get far with him. |
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reformist (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
20. Real Campaign Finance Reform is Needed. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Campaign Finance Reform is not enough. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. You forgot that gov't keeps many businesses going from the stuff and services they buy from them. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. So true, I haven't forgotten. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. K&R from a fellow Left-Libertarian. |
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cark (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
38. K&R - love your posts. n/t |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. Big government is needed to police corporations. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Corproatism needs Big Government to protect it's monopolist racket. |
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Meldread (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Corporations cannot (in their present form) exist without government. |
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phasma ex machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
53. Small biz "gets" to do pure capitalism. |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. You're right. America practices Capitulism, not Capitalism |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-23-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
57. Same old capitalism as ever. |
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