Matt Taibbi, Bill Moyers and Robert Kuttner: Why Can't Democrats Do Anything Right?

"BILL MOYERS: Something's not right here. One year after the great collapse of our financial system, Wall Street is back on top while our politicians dither. As for health care reform, you're about to be forced to buy insurance from companies whose stock is soaring, and that's just dandy with the White House.

"Truth is, our capitol's being looted, republicans are acting like the town rowdies, the sheriff is firing blanks, and powerful Democrats in Congress are in cahoots with the gang that's pulling the heist. This is not capitalism at work. It's capital. Raw money, mounds of it, buying politicians and policy as if they were futures on the hog market.

"Here to talk about all this are two journalists who don't pull their punches. Robert Kuttner is an economist who helped create and now co-edits the progressive magazine THE AMERICAN PROSPECT, and the author of the book OBAMA'S CHALLENGE, among others.

"Also with me is Matt Taibbi, who covers politics for ROLLING STONE magazine where he is a contributing editor. He's made a name for himself writing in a no-holds-barred, often profane, but always informative and stimulating style that gets under the skin of the powerful. His most recent article is "Obama's Big Sellout," about the President's team of economic advisers and their Wall Street connections. It's been burning up the blogosphere. Welcome to both of you."

http://www.alternet.org/story/144697/matt_taibbi%2C_bill_moyers_and_robert_kuttner%3A_why_can%27t_democrats_do_anything_right

those with pre-existing conditions. They can wait, right?

How many uninsured die per year from not having access to health care - multiplied by at least 8? How very progressive.

The insurance companies that made healthcare the mess that it is today? That isn't very progressive, either.

We're all Bozos on this bus...

so all things considered, that's not really much difference.

He is just saying give up until then. It would probably be more like a couple of decades.

It is pathetic to see people who consider themselves Progressives no longer caring about covering the uninsured.

health care should be affordable and accessible to all, and insurance companies should be shown the door.

This bill is not about that at all. It's about creating a massive revenue stream for insurance companies.

And I really can't believe that progressives support that.

people with pre-existing conditions, ending annual and lifetime limits on insurance benefits, subsidising insurance for the working poor then you would want to kill the bill.

Priority - punishing insurance co's v. providing insurance to the uninsured and protections to everyone. It is not a perfect world. Sometimes you have to choose which is more important to you. That is where we are.

because it will not accomplish what you desire. There will still be uninsured people, and now they can be fined.

That's great.

:applause: