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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:24 PM
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What would break George Bush's heart? What could make him experience empathy?
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 07:34 PM by Fridays Child
I heard the part of his "speech," at Virginia Tech where he asked a "loving god" to comfort the grieving. And I got to wondering just what, if anything, would cause him to experience real grief, or if he ever has. I know he lost a sister when he was very young and I've seen him exhibit embarrassment and anger. But I'm hard-pressed to recall any instance when he seemed truly sad.

(Edited the title of the thread to be more clear that I'm not talking about his feeling grief for himself.)
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:25 PM
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1. what heart
:shrug:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:27 PM
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6. Ok. I should have seen that one coming but, seriously...
...do you believe, as I do, that he's a sociopath and incapable of mourning anyone's loss but his own?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:30 PM
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15. sorry, couldn't resist ---
all signs seem to point in that direction, yes
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:32 PM
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17. I totally agree.
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imperial jedi Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 06:35 AM
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85. I absolutly agree with you.
n/t
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:26 PM
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2. He Has To Have A Heart
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:30 PM
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16. Physically, yes, but, emotionally...
...in the sense that he's capable of empathy, not necessarily. I think that particular deficiency may be a key trait of sociopathy, if not some other disorders, as well.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:18 PM
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50. Lack of empathy is a hallmark of pathological narcissism,
which seems to fit Bush to a T.

His only reality is HIMSELF. People around him either support his inflated opinion of himself, or they don't exist -- if they do manage to pierce his bubble, they must be destroyed.

No one else's feelings have any reality to a person like this. A narcissist can feel angry, or afraid, but only pretends loving feelings for others. He doesn't love himself either. Those feelings have no reality for him, they are just something to be feigned. A narcissist can seem extremely charming to the outside world -- s/he can have an excellent grasp of social "niceties" -- but those in the inner circle experience a darker reality.

These people are the emptiest people in the world, and so the fullness of other people's emotional lives are a complete enigma to them.

Repubs often liked to accuse Clinton of being a narcissist, but they were wrong. All people have some degree of healthy narcissism, and Clinton clearly falls in that category. He had a gift for empathy which no true narcissist has.

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:29 PM
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56. Pathological narcissism...
Interesting. As a disorder, I wonder if it's seen as distinct from socipathy. Or, maybe, one is considered to be a symptom of the other.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:30 PM
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66. Personality disorders often overlap.
So a person can be a narcissist and a sociopath. But, if I've understood the research, it's possible to be either one without being the other.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 03:48 AM
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80. Jury is out on Clinton...
He is very intelligent, a rare feature of NPD, but not exclusive. However, afflicted peoples can most certainly fake empathy. That is a learned deception of the narcissist. You would have to be very close to the man in order to identify the disorder.

I have known two men that were with out a doubt, undiagnosed NPD's. Actually one of them was diagnosed later by a forensic PHD.

Having said all of that...

** very much exhibit a lot of the symptoms.

There is no way you could diagnose him without knowing the "true" man.

I could give you a keyboard diagnosis of NPD but we couldn't bank on it.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 03:35 AM
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79. I think his has Narcissitic Personality Disorder
He has all of the symptoms.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:26 PM
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3. I honestly don't think he's capable of that emotion; he seems
like he has no soul, so I don't know how he could experience any powerful feelings.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:21 PM
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51. He can experience rage, which is a powerful feeling, and fear -- but
he can't experience love.

You're right; he seems to have no soul. That's the mark of extreme narcissism; a complete lack of empathy because he lacks those feelings himself.
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 02:23 AM
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77. would a lack of empathy
be like condemning a whole group of people for something that only a minuscule number of that population did?


Just curious...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:26 PM
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4. what heart?
king george is a sociopath.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:27 PM
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5. He's a poseur...
Who has no heart...

I don't think he's capable of sadness, true sadness...

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:23 PM
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52. All narcissists are poseurs. That's how they get along in life.
They learn the social rules, they may even be charming, but the purpose of their charm is to get the feedback that buoys up their own self-image. Inside, they are a void.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:27 PM
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7. I would n/t
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:28 PM
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8. LOL
That's an interesting response. Maybe I shouldn't ask how you would do it. :evilgrin:
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:29 PM
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9. He has a heart?
news to me.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:29 PM
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10. Well..I don't think we will ever see any type of empathy or
sympathy from this guy...

While babies and elderly folk were dying in the Gulf Coast....he stayed on vacation...The definition of sociopath comes to mind...

so·ci·o·path /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθ, ˈsoʊʃi-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun Psychiatry. a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

He was not directly effected by the tradgedies...Katrina, On the ground in Iraq and Afghanastan, Walter Reed...etc
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:04 PM
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29. I think he almost has to be surrounded by sociopaths, too...
...when you consider that dreadful little Correspondents' Dinner video of him looking for WMDs, which had to have been produced and approved by White House staff.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:29 PM
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11. IMO, it's how his parents reacted to his sister's death...
and how they showed him to react (be tough, men don't cry and that sort of thing) that taught him to put pain in a separate compartment, forget about it, and NEVER share it.

He is incapable of having a broken heart...the moment he feels like he might have a "heart=breaking moment" his mental defense kicks in.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:24 PM
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32. Right. When tragedy strikes, go golfing
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 08:25 PM by Canuckistanian
It's the Bush way.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:29 PM
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36. Or strum a guitar
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:29 PM
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12. To have your heart broken, you need empathy
He doesn't possess that kind of insight into others.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:15 PM
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30. I agree with you...
..but I mentioned his sister, in the OP, because I wonder if he ever possessed empathy. And I wonder if one is a born sociopath or if circumstances create sociopaths. Or is it some combination thereof and the degree of sociopathy depends on both genetics and environment?

Not that it will necessarily help us, but I do wonder what made George Bush the monster that he is, today.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:43 PM
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43. I always favor nurture arguments, I suppose...
when it comes down to this kind of discussion. I'm not qualified to know whether or not some hardwiring in his brain was destructive from the get go, but I do know with parents like that empathy wasn't ever going to be valued as he "grew up."
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:46 PM
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45. A true statement.
Very true.
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:47 PM
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64. Children who are not bonded to their mothers are at risk
of not developing a conscious, from which empathy flows. If a child's needs are not met during the first three years of life, there is a high risk of sociopathy. A lack of needs met after the first three years is more likely to lead to neurotic behaviors.

This is directly related to brain development, which is affected by brain chemicals such as excessive adrenalin- too much adrenalin, caused by a child who is perpetually extra anxious, prevents certain essential and permanent "hook-ups" in the brain. In other words, if mom is missing, and there is no one stepping in to adequately take her place- a young child suffers severe anxiety, abnormal brain chemicals, and potential life long damage.
In nutshell.
Does anyone here think Barbara Bush was willing to or capable of meeting the needs of little baby George?

vanlassie
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:47 PM
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73. Interesting post ....
I don't know much about how Babs raised lil' Georgie, but given the persona she displays to the public I'm not betting she raised him to really consider other people and their feelings ... other than the ones she and Papa Bush had. (Thinking in particular of her post-Hurricane Katrina comments here ... surely no empathy there.)
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:08 PM
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89. I doubt she had much to do with him
In that social strata, the children are generally raised by nannies. When the parents are in political circles, as Bushie was, they'd be trotted out at the appropriate time for photo ops and such.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:27 PM
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54. The current thinking is that narcissists are raised by narcissists.
The older generation sucks the life out of the child -- the child's purpose in life is to prop up the parent's good feelings about himself. This child, as an adult, has an emotional void at his center, and uses his own children for his or her narcissistic needs. It can be very hard to stop this cycle.

Barbara Bush certainly has shown signs of narcissim of her own, and she was the dominant parent (home with the children).
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:29 PM
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13. Having to say " I'm sorry "
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 07:30 PM by orpupilofnature57
Cause Control isn't having to say your sorry.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:29 PM
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14. Live the rest of his years as a bagger in a supermarket in Northampton Mass
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:32 PM
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18. Yes, that would cause him to experience grief for himself but is he capable of empathy?
I don't think so but maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:30 PM
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57. "Children of the Self Absorbed" is a good book about living with people
like Bush. He probably qualifies on both levels, as a narcissist and as a child of one (or two).
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:32 PM
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19. Or in Provincetown where people are Super intelligent.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:32 PM
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20. Losing his girls, I am sure. But you might never see outward signs of it.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:36 PM
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23. So help me, I'm not even sure of that.
I think that this nation is in the thrall of a classic, full-blown sociopath. And I think his handlers (Cheney, et al.) knew that was true, when they chose him to become the king.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:14 PM
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93. didn't he say he'd rather go to war than raise twins again?
I'm no big fan of the twins but NO WONDER they drank so much. Maybe someday they'll write a tell-all.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:54 PM
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48. I disagree
On 9/11, he spent the day trying to find a place to hide--ended up in Nebraska. Not once in the many times that he talked of that day does he mention being concerned for pickles or the twins. A real husband and father would have moved heaven and earth to get to his family. But not our georgie. Yes, they had SS protection but what kind of man would not even be concerned about their well-being on such a horrible day?
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:09 PM
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91. And wasn't there a story
About how when one of the twins needed an emergency appendectomy, he couldn't be bothered to be there. ?
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:32 PM
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21. HE has no conscience and does not have remorse for the heinous acts.........
HE has and continues to commit; a true Jekyll and Hyde personality.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:34 PM
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22. What heart? He doesn't have a heart...
can't break something that doesn't exist.
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:42 PM
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24. This may sound silly, but I truely believe that GWB is the Anti Christ...
If you have followed him and his actions as I have since about 1999 and then done research at a later date on his actions, I believe that he is the Devil as Hugo Chevez has stated.

ww
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:47 PM
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26. If I believed in an antichrist, George would fit the profile.
Smell the sulfur?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:43 PM
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25. Sociopaths are incapable of empathy. n/t
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:50 PM
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27. The very rich fill empathy for no one.
When the price of gas goes up, when people lose their homes, when people die because they have no health care (I could go on infinitum) The very rich do not care and are not touched because they buy what they want and never consider the price. The best yard sales are in communities where the extremely rich live. They practically give stuff away to make room for more stuff.
:dem:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:55 PM
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28. Sociopaths only care about themselves. So if he faced a loss of his status,
prestige, or faced jail. He would care about that.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:38 PM
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42. Impeachment - - eom
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 05:51 AM
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84. Yes, it wouldn't really break his heart as much as make him melt down.
I think he would then have a full blown psychotic break.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:24 PM
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31. I don't want him to experience empathy. I want him to experience FEAR!
Fear of being impeached and found guilty. Fear of prison. Fear that he will be tried at the Hague.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:27 PM
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35. I think sociopaths are capable of experiencing that emotion.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 08:32 PM by Fridays Child
I do wonder, though, if, in his case, Bush is too disconnected from reality to feel fear.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:34 PM
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67. I don't think you should want that. It would only make him more dangerous.
It could drive him to start another war.

Seriously. He's going to be at his worst when he feels cornered.
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ends_dont_justify Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:26 PM
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33. a parplegic cowboy? Bed-ridden oil barrels? A crying gun? N/T
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:36 PM
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41. In a sense...
oil barrels are becoming bed-ridden. I can imagine that it scares him.
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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:26 PM
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34. news of NO sequel to "My Pet Goat"
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:34 PM
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Great graphic!
:)
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:31 PM
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37. If 9/11 didn't do it, if Katrina didn't do it,
if thousands of dead and wounded American soldiers didn't do it...then I don't think anything will. :(
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:33 PM
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38. Finding out Santa Claus isn't real.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 12:09 AM
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76. I like Easter bunnies
They give the dogs plenty of exercise while they are trying to catch them. Our dogs are too old and slow to even get close anymore, but it sure is fun watching them get all excited about them darn pesky rabbits anyway


http://www.pestproducts.com/cottontails.htm
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:33 PM
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39. nothing, see under sociopath EOM
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:34 PM
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40. Poppy Bush, Kissinger, and other living mass murderers from the last 50 years
are finally tried and convicted at The Hague.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:46 PM
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44. Hiding his bottle of tequila under a barrel of oil n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:49 PM
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46. To be Impeached and taken
to The Hague..only something devasting happening to him would he get it.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:31 PM
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59. Only something PERSONALLY devastating.
I don't think he would be able to express empathy even if someone close to him were in trouble. It would have to be his own ass on the line before he would feel anything. He just cannot put himself in another person's shoes. It's impossible.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:51 PM
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47. I think he is incapable of feeling true empathy.
Anything we think we see him showing is simply that: for show.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:54 PM
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49. Standing on his own. No help from anyone. No more cashing in on
the Bush name. Really becoming a "regular guy," and having to pull himself up by his own bootstraps. Too bad that will never, ever happen. He'll always have someone looking out for him.

The only thing I can think of that could actually happen that would cause him to feel sorrow and pain would be having to watch one of his children suffer through a terminal illness.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:27 PM
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53. Bad Batch of Coke, Maybe?
Breaking Cheney's might be easier

It's broken already
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:28 PM
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55. Nothing. His NPD cannot be eliminated or "cured".
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:31 PM
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58. Does this sound like anyone we know?
I realize it's foolish to diagnose from afar, but here's something on Narcississtic Personality Disorder:

Diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder requires a thorough psychological evaluation, the gathering of personal history, and personal observations made by the diagnosing doctor. In accordance with the DSM-IV, a diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder is considered when five or more of the following criteria are present:

has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement, i.e. unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
is interpersonally exploitative (i.e. takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends)
lacks empathy, i.e. is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.

From the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition. American Psychiatric Association, 1994.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:31 PM
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60. Nothing. That toy broke a loooong time ago. Can't unscramble an egg...
... (not efficiently, at least)
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:34 PM
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61. Dropping a bottle of Jim or Jack that was still 3/4 full n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:39 PM
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62. He doesn't have a heart. He's a Republican.
Haven't you ever heard the saying, "Colder than a Republican's heart?" It insinuated how cold hearted they are, but in reality, they don't have hearts at all. They have no feelings. They have no empathy. And they certainly don't have any sympathy. They would have had to have experienced some real pain in their lives to have sympathy. They don't even have the common courtesy to feign empathy. They have no hearts and they have no class.

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:44 PM
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63. Not a goddamn thing.
We're talking about a full on sociopath here.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:27 PM
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65. I don't think he could feel grief unless it has to do with himself.
I really don't.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:36 PM
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68. Remember when he went on a family vacation while his daughter
was in the hospital?

His feelings don't even extend to his own children.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:36 PM
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69. It seems that a lot of people here...
...including me, agree with you. It's truly a remarkable situation for our country to be in.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 07:59 PM
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87. It's a scary situation too.
And I'm pretty sure the inability to feel empathy or sympathy is a strong indication of mental illness!!
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:37 PM
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70. an oil spill
All those beautiful barrels wasted on some stupid seashore.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:37 PM
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71. When his Momma croaks, he will be a basket case.. a bigger one than now.
He's always been a Momma's boy..
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:41 PM
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72. And there won't be anyone left to keep Poppy from boxing his ears
and if Poppy doesn't do it, Jeb will.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:52 PM
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74. The pig farm in foreclosure? Karl Rove getting indicted?
Jenna marrying a peace activist?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:59 PM
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75. Say what you will about astrology, but
Bush is a classic Cancer. While the Cancer can be stubborn and overbearing, there is one thing they want more than anythng - to be thought of as a likeable person.

One day, his protective bubble is going to pop. One day he's going to see that the general populace does not like him and they don't want to have that beer with him anymore. That will be the day it all comes crashing down.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 03:31 AM
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78. Jeff Gannon calling it off for good...
:cry:



:D

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 09:29 AM
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86. Yeppers. Chimpy loves him some shiny heads.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:25 AM
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81. An Oil Billionaire gets hammered with a huge tax bill
that will have him in tears almost instantly. :cry:

I'm afraid that King George never moved in the same circles as the rest of us. He's a spoiled frat boy, always has been and shows no signs a capacity to change.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:29 AM
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82. Absolutely nothing!
He is a base and craven aberration. His sociopathy is congenital.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 04:57 AM
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83. No heart, no empathy.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:04 PM
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88. What would break George Bush's heart?
That's too easy.....

Stop the troops from dying....
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:08 PM
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90. The only thing I could see causing him genuine deep sorrow is when
mommy dearest slips her mortal coil. I tend to think even then he will probably just shut down emotionally.

I wondered once if he were forced to drive a 1987 Chevy Nova, like we were till last year, had to juggle our budget and go to my shitty and demeaning job every day; I wondered if he could develop any empathy for the working class. I decided he would probably just get angry and eventually go mad, like many of the working poor.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:11 PM
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92. maybe if his money caught on fire, or he spilled a bottle of whiskey
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 01:48 PM
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94. good question
:shrug:

I work with mentally ill people. :shrug: for understanding...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 01:52 PM
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95. I think he is incapable of empathy
can you imagine if someone close to him died, like his mother or father? he would come up with some fratboy response. He has no empathy or compassion.
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