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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:40 PM
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So ...... the "intelligence comminuty" failed to connect the dots, it seems.
Well I have a message for the various and sundry right wing camps.

This is for you, FoxNooz.

This is for you, VRWC.

This is for you, Rush Limbaugh.

This is for you, Glenn Hannity and Sean Beckkk.

And especially, this is for you, DICK, you fucking troll.

The Intelligence Community isn't working because YOU GUYS either directly fucked with it or you were cheerleaders for the guys who directly fucked with it.

The war you "won" in Baghdad that you so love to crow about was won with Bill Clinton's military, whether you want to admit that or not. And the fuck ups that led to that kid blowing his scrotum apart happened deep in YOUR intel services and YOUR National Intelligence structure.

So shut your fucking pie holes. You're all pathetic.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 05:50 PM
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1. K&R 2010 times!
The "intelligence problem" Bush had did not reside with the intel communities, it resided right between his ears...

The US had 15 itel agencies prior to 9/11:Air Force Intelligence
Army Intelligence
Central Intelligence Agency
Coast Guard Intelligence
Defense Intelligence Agency
Department of Energy
Department of Homeland Security
Department of State
Department of the Treasury
Drug Enforcement Administration
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Marine Corps Intelligence
National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
National Reconnaissance Office
National Security Agency
Navy Intelligence


Members of the IC

I still find it difficult to believe that with these intel agencies, 19 attackers, including 17 from countries that were either friends and business partners of the Bush family or connected with Cheney's Halliburton, could infiltrate and kill 3,000 Americans on 9/11.

All this while Bush sat and did nothing after he was told we were under attack...
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evan2 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:16 PM
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2. Disagree
I don't see how you can examine the evidence and not quickly conclude that it was an inside job. A false flag operation with
Osama playing the role of Patsy.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:33 PM
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3. .
:crazy:
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:13 PM
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4. Call me cynical...
or just another tin-foil hatter, but it occurs to me that some of the pinch-point(s) through which intel passes (to be disseminated to operational agencies) could be controlled by right-wing, militaristic conservatives who WANT this administration to fail. I think it goes beyond traditional turf wars. Withholding crucial tips might just be in the interests of these traitors. I don't use that word lightly and I certainly recognize that the majority of our intel people are good citizens. But there must be some interests who aren't...including "new world order" multi-nationals.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:26 PM
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6. Okay ..... foil on .......
.... conceptually, what you suggest is not illogical. Where it quickly becomes impossible to defend is in the sheer number of people across all the agencies who would have to be in on the plot.
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evan2 Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:34 PM
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7. Ever hear of the concept of compartmentalization?

That's how major conpiracies (or operations- if you're one of those folks who is in denial that conspiracies are an EVERYDAY event)
are carried out.

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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-02-10 02:10 PM
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8. Not that "many" are required...
to bury a memo or cable. Unless every cable goes to several people concurrently, which I doubt, it is certainly possible for just a couple recipients to bury something. Especially if they have it in for the current administration. I'm not saying it's likely, just quite possible, in light of the turf wars, competition over access to the WH, BFEE hold-overs (as per the US Attorneys...) etc. Why else do so many crucial connections go untold? By whom? To whom? There ARE people involved. My $0.02
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 07:16 PM
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5. let`s see....bush had at least 6 years to perfect the system
obama inherited another bush fuck up.
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