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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:19 AM
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I cannot wait to watch the faces of the right-wing pundits on election
night this year. All of the predicting by the MSM is that Dems are going to lose and lose big. Of course more Repubs are retiring than Dems but that is usually not mentioned. The party of NO is honestly under the impression they have a big win coming up in November. Their Chairman, Mike Steele, however is of another opinion. I may not agree on much with Steele, but on this I do. Dems are going to do just fine. Granted, there will be some losses, that's part of the cycle, but very few I'm sure. Now, to watch CNN, Faux or MSNBC will be the biggest decision I'll have. Joey Scar will be on the list the following day. I cannot wait!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:23 AM
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1. I don't think they'll have a big win, but they will pick up seats.
I'm estimating about 10 in the House, and a net of one or two in the Senate.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:26 AM
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3. The Republican approval numbers are in the teens.
Just considering that one metric they aren't going to pick up jack squat.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:37 AM
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7. That only works if Dems stay home.
I'm gonna work my tail off for Dick Blumenthal. It's a lot better than sitting around pissing and moaning...
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:39 AM
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13. I could not agree with you more. If we spend the energy organizing and supporting Democrats
that we spend kicking each other's ass we will not have to be concerned with a GOP takeover of congress, or anything else.

Work and vote for Democrats!!!!!

mark
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 07:32 PM
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14. Absolutely. I would only add, work and vote for progressive Dems!
I realize that this can be hard for so many red state Dems but we can't give up on our good blue staters!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:44 PM
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15. I find there are progressive organizations in most places that are
looking for candidates even for local elections. We should get involved with some of these folks, see what and who is involved, and get to work NOW.

I GUARANTEE you the republicans are already working hard to get their people elected.

mark
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:56 AM
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8. That metric's meaningless in congressional races.
Well, almost meaningless. There's something to be said for brand name, I'll grant you. But in an individual congressional race, the brand of the individual candidates is way, way more important than the generic brand of the party. Now, add in the fact that in many of the swing districts that Democrats picked up in 06 and 08, the GOP brand isn't nearly as damaged as it is nationwide. Now, add in an energized conservative base coupled with a cynical, disenfranchised Democratic one.

I don't follow House races quite as closely as I do the Senate -- there's just too much to keep track of -- but in the Senate, I like the Dems' chances to pick up seats in New Hampshire and maybe Missouri or Louisiana. But Delaware, Nevada and Colorado are all potential GOP pickups. At this point, I've even shaky about Burris' seat in Illinois. Now, consider that Dodd stepping aside may strengthen Connecticut, but Dorgan's retirement in North Dakota practically throws that race to Gov. John Hoeven. And then throw in Arkansas, where Blanche Lincoln faces the tried and true political maxim that, given the choice between a fake Democrat and a real Republican, the voters will go for the real thing every time.

All in all, it's possible that things could stay the same. But if anyone picks up seats, it'll probably be the GOP.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:25 AM
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2. But the right wing and their M$M pundits think that if they repeat it enough
It will come true.

Tell the voters that the Democrats are going to lose big. Speculating they can drive the fringe Democratic and the Independent voters to either stay away on election day or vote for their guy.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:29 AM
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4. That seems to be the strategy. Get the same ones to stay home, while all the crazies come out
to vote.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:30 AM
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5. Going to be some long faces at fox
Just like last time.

Don
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 10:34 AM
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6. remember remember the 7th of November...2000
they own the media, they own the election systems, they create reality.

We must do more than donate and knock on doors.

We are being set up for a Republican takeover whether we vote for it or not.
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terrell9584 Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:35 AM
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9. They won't be the ones who are shocked
Up to 25% of Americans are out of work. That number was only half at the beginning of this year. People continued to blame Bush for a time but given Obama's rhetoric they expected much more out of him than they usually do. By the metric of the average American he failed. They wanted him to focus on one thing and one thing only. They elected him to be another FDR and so far he has not.

Perceptions of the election will be set by March. There will really be no way around it. Economically speaking it is not possible for the job situation to improve by April-June to the point to where major Democratic losses can be staved off. The Senate probably cannot be taken over. The House probably will.

The only thing that can stop the Republicans is if they can't get the Tea Party faction under control. If they can shut them up and run moderates in moderate districts the Dem house majority is toast because this election is very close to being nationalized and the general pattern in America has always been that when unemployment is rising people always vote for the party out of power.


Look at the 70s. Party control consistently changed and you saw set backs and gains solely because neither party solved the issue of unemployment for most of the decade. Why expect now to be different?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:39 AM
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12. You are right and that's why the Jobs bill needs to be next on his
agenda. Immigration reform should wait until after the election...
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:36 AM
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10. Our fight is not specificaly against the right-wing, it's against CORPORATE control of our nation.
:patriot:
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 11:38 AM
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11. I hope you are right, but i fear we will take one of the biggest losses in history over HCR
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 12:47 PM
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16. someone on Tweety said the party in power historically loses 4 and 28
(Senate and House seats) in the midterm. Bet the farm,l both numbers will be lower in 2010.
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silverhandorder Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:30 PM
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17. I doubt...
Moderates will swing to republicans when their jobs are not back. You think sheeple take the time of day to understand where their problems are coming from? They vote based on how their life is. Hmm democrat in power and I feel shitty well then I will vote for a republican.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 01:31 PM
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18. Have they ever been right?
Look the pundits are trying to raise money for their TV stations - non-stop campaigns are great for their salaries.
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