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Bill219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:13 AM Original message |
Ady Gil Captain: We Tried To Turn To Starboard Just Before Impact |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yup. Big REC for this one. |
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I Have A Dream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Happy to give this its 5th recommendation. nt |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Videos |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. Oh, please. Like he wouldn't lie. Playing chicken with a much bigger boat. Bound to happen |
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nosmokes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. WTF do *YOU* know about it? Sitting on your fat arse in the comfort of |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. They're not very well trained compared to freshman cadets... |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 06:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
36. uh, there is video documenation |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. Can't be crossing and overtaking at the same time. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. The video from both vessels proves the Japanese ship turned into the AG. |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
6. Sorry |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Unless you are a whaler, I assume. nt |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I'd love to see this fought out |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Why would it need to be re-defined? |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Both vessels have obligations |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Ooooh, snap! |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Both vessels are at fault |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 06:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
38. the video(s) indicate the opposite |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. The law of the sea is not to ram idle vessels by turning into them. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. I called it. |
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AllenVanAllen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Both may technically at fault |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Actually, the smaller boat harassing and playing chicken with the bigger boat |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Did you watch the youtube? It changed my mind. |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. SM2 is a converted whaler; they dropped the harpoon for a water cannon |
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AllenVanAllen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "to harass the SSCS and keep them from intercepting the main fleet" |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 06:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Thanks for the additional information. |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Given the top speed of the SM2 |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. By far the most revealing video yet posted. LRAD and water cannon firing away... |
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AllenVanAllen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I'm just glad he didn't kill anyone. |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
22. I'm cross-posting this from the other thread |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 06:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Plus there's the water cannon |
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Merchant Marine (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Water cannons fall under good seamanship |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
24. For me, his statement coincides with the videos. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. The AG was just sitting there, idling, and caught completely off guard. |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 03:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I totally agree. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 04:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I doubt they expected the crew of the Ady Gil to be already filming. |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 05:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Good point. |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 05:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I'd like to think.... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
26. Recommend |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-09-10 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
33. In Paul Watson's words: |
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