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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:14 AM
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Racism is growing in this country by leaps and bounds.
I have seen more racism on the Internet and on the streets in the last year than I have my whole life.

Every other post in a political chat room in yahoo is a racist comment being made by a conservative. All the rooms!

I have no proof but I am willing to bet that web traffic to hate sites have increased since Obama got elected.

It's just getting really ugly and I hope it doesn't come to a head someday.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:17 AM
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:20 AM
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2. Just like the conservatives want to do with gays.
Conservatives think gays have rights..right to a speedy trial for being gay.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:35 AM
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:57 AM
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17. The conservatives care a bit about gays
after all, there are a few conservatives who are a "little light in the loafers"
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:59 AM
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19. Oy.
Is there a *progressive* website somewhere that I can wake up to?
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:06 AM
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23. Oh come on, i have no problem with gays
I am gay. I have a problem with conservatives speaking out against gays while they cruise for mansex in a filthy bathroom.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:57 AM
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18. Yeah. OK. " a distraction".
>>>>>the gays rights crowd and their so called conservative activist opposition are both just tiny activist factions of robotic partisans stirred up by the media and the GOP and Dem parties in order to provide a distraction from really important economic issues like healthcare, taxation, social welfare state etc>>>>>


Here's another distraction. What robotic partisans won't do to get attention.


http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/all/news/record/399.html


Jeeeeeezuus.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:06 AM
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22. Equal rights is a real issue.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:24 AM
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27. This was funnier when Beck said it.
The conservative sense of entitlement leads inexorably to cries of oppression when they are called on their racism.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:59 AM
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31. Are you actually defending racists, or just making silly jokes?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:07 AM
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32. Ve should admonish them to actually live like Christ
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 08:07 AM by SpiralHawk
Instead of lying and pretending and torturing and hating and twisting and generally being The Latter Day Pharisees they are...
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:41 AM
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57. great straw man.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:22 AM
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3. Things always get nastier during hard economic times. n/t
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:30 AM
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4. Somehow I think racism would still be flourishing..
even if the economy was good. The conservatives are outraged that we have a black president. They can't stand it and it really shows.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:00 AM
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85. Somehow I think not.
If this part-African-American President was presiding over an improving economy, it would have worked miracles in diminishing bigotry. And as I said, it is an historical fact that matters improve in hopeful times and worsen in hard times in general.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 01:17 PM
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74. +1
As the pie gets smaller for the general public, people become more determined to assert their entitlement to the scraps that remain. And the people in power are adept at manipulating those sentiments.

It's not just because Obama was elected. As the economy started to crash in the early bush years, those in power carefully directed anger away from white wealthy men causing the collapse to immigrants. The general public dutifully turned their pitchforks toward anyone who spoke Spanish, as if they were the real problem. The republicans may have led it, but democrats at the top and bottom weren't exactly quick to extinguish it. Even on DU I saw some pretty ugly posts about immigrants, and I was personally attacked for not stating that I would automatically save an American over a foreigner in a (hypothetical !) emergency.

No crisis, no threat = we care about all humanity equally. Add in a dose of fear, and suddenly some people are more equal than others.
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TwixVoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:32 AM
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5. It's not growing.... it was always there
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 05:37 AM by TwixVoy
It's just that you white people are more sensitive to it now because a black man you now actually pay attention to (Obama) is dealing with it. Non-whites in this country deal with it every day. You just don't notice nearly as much because it's not directed at you.

Even on DU you see posts making excuses for creating what would essentially be a "colored folks" line at the airports and other such racism that is hardly challenged by anyone.
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shawcomm Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:49 AM
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16. Yep... it was always there.
Having a black president just made them angry and let it out in public.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:32 AM
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:43 AM
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34. You need to get a new joke.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:44 AM
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:45 AM
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37. Can you post anything but stupid sh*t?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:48 AM
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39. I agree. It's starting to really piss me off and it's not
funny. But then again, I suspect this is what the poster is trying to do anyway.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:39 AM
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55. Yes, and they just discovered the internet
is one giant racist homophobic chat room.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:35 AM
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6. I'm not sure if it's growing
so much as it is becoming much more noticable since the election of Obama - seems like a lot of people kept it under wraps as long as blacks were kept "in their place" and fit their tired stereotypes
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:35 AM
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8. there's actually less racism than ever in this country
That explains why we have an African-American president. That could never have happened in previous times.

It is just the technology we have today that gives haters a platform, the internet, that never really existed before.

America is, no doubt about it, less racist than it was ten, twenty, thirty years ago. It might seem different, because of the technical infrastructure that has emerged. Every racist in America didn't have their own ability to publish their hateful speech twenty years ago. But then again, neither did anti-racists.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:37 AM
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10. Are you actually being serious or was your post sarcasm?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:00 AM
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12. I guess I misread the emphasis of the OP
Of course, we have an uptick of racist incidents. Of course it is disappointing. But I think it was expected all the way.

This country is not getting more racist. We elected the first black president, and we're getting more racist?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:06 AM
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14. Illogical assumption..
Electing the first black president is not an indicator on the movement (forward or backward) of racism in this country. Is the country getting more racist? Again, this would be difficult to determine without valid information. However, IMO, this country may not becoming more racist, the racism is just more visible.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:42 AM
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:58 AM
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30. Yes, because decent treatment of minorities is incompatible with economic leftism
You do realize that those Europaean countries that have welfare states, economically progressive policies, frequent democratic socialist governments, etc. are usually ALSO relatively progressive on social issues and anti-racism?

But go ahead and accept racism and discrimination in order to get your economic goals if you like. After all, Jim Crow and permitted lynchings turned the former confederate states of the south into a socialist utopia! Damn Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks; all they wanted to do was deflect attention from economic issues and keep the rich in power!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:40 AM
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:49 AM
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40. I am going to get to the bottom of this thread
and find you are gone. I will not miss you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:54 AM
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:57 AM
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43. I have no idea if you are racist or not.
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 08:57 AM by redwitch
I'm fairly certain you won't stay here long. I'm definitely certain you are here only to disrupt.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:59 AM
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:02 AM
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47. Yeah, then we can move on to disruptors.
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 09:03 AM by marmar
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:05 AM
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:35 AM
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52. Is this your only schtick?
Let me know, because if it is, it will save me an awful lot of time waiting for you to say something intelligent.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:37 AM
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:42 AM
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59. I only had four people on my ignore list
Welcome to slot 5.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:42 AM
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58. Consistency is a good thing. Is it going to be "we" or "ve", "the" or "ze", "zat"
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 09:42 AM by Obamanaut
or "that"?

Please make up your mind.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:44 AM
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36. They're all related.....Denialists don't help the cause.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:20 AM
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51. I'd agree
It seems like more racism, because the diminishing number of racists make up in volume what they are losing in numbers.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:17 AM
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67. How do you come to that conclusion..
that proves nothing except the fact that a lot of racist just didn't vote and now are angry.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 05:36 AM
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9. Not just racism...
..a good number of different bigotries are on display, including here.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:14 AM
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65. yes. they always come hand in hand. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:01 AM
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13. I doubt it
We now have technology where we can actually see what racists think.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:03 AM
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20. I see more racism on the streets and on the bus too
Two girls were walking pass the busstop talking spanish to each other when this guy in a wheelchair started hollering at them to "Go home"..that is just one example..

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:05 AM
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21. Racism is not the same as prejudice n/t
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:07 AM
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24. Ah! Great point
Still disgusting to see and hear though.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:50 AM
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:04 AM
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48. No, it cannot. Malaise was referring to the Internet.
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 09:06 AM by LeftishBrit
Are you drunk, out to annoy, or genuinely pro-racist? I hope it's one of the first two!
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:09 AM
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63. If this poster is still around
I would love to know who it is, if they were tombstoned then nevermind. That's the one thing I hate about deleted posts, if you come in late to the thread, you have no idea who was disrupting it. Based on the replies alone, this is someone I'd like to be aware of ahead of time.

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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 06:44 AM
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15. I think it's just more visible. I never read comment sections anymore for news articles
and its becoming difficult to even read message boards. It's full of racist assholes spewing their filth. It isn't just racism either, its all types of disgusting bigotry.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:59 AM
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45. The Columbus Dispatch is having trouble with racist website comments.
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 09:01 AM by mwb970
Toxic rants taint online comments by Benjamin J. Marrison
(Columbus Dispatch, January 10, 2010)

Thursday, for example, we ran a story about the execution of a Toledo man for murder and another about the deportation of a woman from Liberia. Both drew heavy comments.

The story about the Liberian drew the most offensive commentary. Too many submissions were racist and hateful. The vast majority were anti-immigrant. Many commenters offered thoughtful opinions about immigration or criticisms of the story, which was the goal of adding the commenting tool in June. What we don't want are the rants of repugnant racists.

The story about the execution drew the predictable -- and plentiful -- commentary supporting the death penalty and an urging of more rapid executions. Our staff removed offensive comments about the religion of the murderer, who converted to Islam while in prison. Being supportive of the death penalty is anyone's right. Spewing hate via our Web site is not.

Comments that crossed the line of civility were removed from both stories. Removing distasteful comments is a daily occurrence.

I notice that Marrison does not mention (as others have) the undoubtable fact that most or all of the nasty, offensive comments were from conservatives, although the implication is clear if you know what those vile folks are like (ick).

Leave it to the right-wing bigots to ruin the Internet for the rest of us. Is there no way to rid ourselves of this scourge?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:10 AM
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25. Yes, I agree. I believe it has gotten worse because some in the majority race feel threatened...
like never before. There is also a religious based anger developing... conservative Christians and Jews versus Islam and Muslims. Not a pretty sight. Lets hope these people come to their senses soon and learn how to live together peacefully with others who are different.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:13 AM
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26. The conservatives are so goofy
They call all hate groups "muslim"...hitler was a muslim..the KKK is muslim..etc. What is really creepy is I think they truly believe it!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 07:50 AM
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29. racism does not grow, it merely becomes more exposed
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:40 AM
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56. which in turn also engenders the belief that there are 'many' out there who think the same
thus emboldening others to express themselves and their hateful prejudices.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:56 AM
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61. agreed
but I don't think racism ever disappeared, I think its always here.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:14 AM
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64. agreed, as well.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 08:59 AM
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44. Sorry but I think you're wrong. People don't like Obama, that doesn't mean they are racist.
Obama would be my hero in a nanosecond if he stopped the wars, started seriously greening the U.S., kicked the bloodsucking bankers to the curb along with Rahm, Geithner and Summers, and that's just for starters.

What you are seeing on those whacked out message boards you are going to is freepers doing what they always do-hate anyone who doesn't think, look and act like they do.

Nothing new at all.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:18 AM
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50. A lot of this has gone way beyond not liking Obama.....
..... His election has brought a lot more racism out of the closet. You'd have to be blind, in denial or extremely naive not to see that.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:39 AM
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54. I don't frequent those kind of message boards and I don't watch the b.s. cable news shows.
I'm not blind, stupid or naive, so don't call me those names.

I don't see it because I refuse to listen to freeper idiots spew their crap.

Frankly, I think there is a lot of paranoia about racism going on since Obama was elected.

Which is evidenced in the accusations of racism that are disgustingly thrown around DU whenever anyone voices negative and critical opinions about Obama's policies and practices.

As I said before, Obama would be my hero if only he would do the right thing.

IMO, Obama's blown an incredible chance to be the greatest most loved president ever.

But hey, he's got three more years, so maybe he will surprise me yet.

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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:16 AM
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66. Frankly, tell that to people that have experienced racism in their lives..there's no paranoia around
it..it's a sad,horrible reality..
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Kltpzyxm Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 09:49 AM
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60. agreed
they used to have to hide behind a white hood.

now they hide behind the mantra of teabagging.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:43 AM
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68. His campaign put homophobia in the spotlight as a good thing
so your 'out of the closet' line is painfully ironic. The McClurkin candidate used surrogates who slandered minority groups for political gain, by name, at actual campaign events.
I guess some bigotry is dandy-o, while other bigotry is not. Is there a list?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:44 AM
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69. What are you talking about? Who said some bigotry is dandy-o?
Sincerely WTF are you talking about, because I don't have a clue?

:wtf:

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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 11:45 AM
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70. My wording sucked, and my point
not worth making in this context anyway. Plus, I was not meaning at all that you were on the wrong side of anything. Just a belabored point about choices and how they return. About politicians and those who teach them.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:17 AM
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86. ?
"His campaign put homophobia in the spotlight as a good thing"? I must have missed that part of the campaign.

He just finished appointing 2 - 3 gay people to fairly high positions in his administration. His actions on DOMA & DADT have been disappointing precisely b/c they broke campaign promises made to LGBT groups.

Please tell us to what part of the campaign you are referring?
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 10:04 AM
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62. I've been around since BBS's..pre-Internet days..
Edited on Sun Jan-10-10 10:04 AM by HipChick
It's the same as it was back than..however people seem to feel freer to spout their hate and bigotry
now
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 12:14 PM
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71. It was always there under the surface.
I find it truly shocking. I grew up thinking and being taught that this kind of virulent racism was a thing of the past, something relegated to before I was born. So this BS is horribly shocking to me.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 12:36 PM
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72. Racism is learned behavior.
The anonymity of internet chat rooms/forums makes it easy for people to show who they really are.
I think racism is as bad as it ever was.
Like I say, it's learned behavior. If you are taught something when you are a toddler, it's hard to change that belief.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 02:23 PM
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75. Racists are quite obvious
and while laughing at stupid racists can be fun (just look at pictures of the teabaggers), the most dangerous are the intelligent ones who stay silent and get to the top. In that way the pernicious systemic forms of racism can be maintained.

The fundamental system of racism has not changed no matter where you look. France, Britain, the US. All that has changed is that the real power behind racism has been reigned in and controlled by Institutions.

A racist teacher may not express their hate, but they can start with a low expectation of you, so that if you are failing, it is not because something may be wrong, it is because well you were not going to achieve anyway. Thus continuing a racist meme.

The system can still red-line you, it is now just credit scoring, which when you start out is affected solely by the area you live. So your ability to rent or buy somewhere else is affected. You will not see signs that say no Blacks, Irish Jews or dogs, that existed in 1960s England, but the effect is the same.

The system however hardly ever gets blamed. The poor still do. When the housing bubble burst many blamed the poor for the misfortune of being poor and gettiing kicked out to tent city. Why? Because banks were forced to end much of he blatant discrimination against black people.

The initial sifting of job applications, names can be picked out, or the area you live. Who picks up the discrimination? And then another meme can be continued.

Recreational drug laws that protect the two of the worst drugs, after all there is nothing wrong with big tobacco and the drinks industry, but will put people away in the real still legal form of slavery that is the prison system. You then lose your right to vote and your chance of ever getting a decent job are severely curtailed because of a little weed.

Then there is the acceptable racism. People on a Democratic board, a large majority opinion, saying social assistance needs to be restricted because the poor would just waste it on booze. People on a Democratic board advocating for what is essentially a whites only line at airports.

Although not racism, as such, it is bigotry, there is still a full on Anti Islam meme that appears all too often, even on here. The hypocrisy among the American Conservative groups is dizzying. These same people who would just plain desire to spit in the face of anyone a little different to them and then attack a whole religion and culture because of how it "oppresses women and gays". They say sweet FA about happy clappy Christian God fearing Uganda.

The different treatment of abortion terrorist Scott Roeder, who did kill, but may only get five years and the nut who set his balls on fire and thus created a World wide over reaction is telling.

When it becomes acceptable for a tv news network to whip up fear and anger against a whole religion, I do have to ask what lessons did we learn from Germany 1939. All to often, I think the wrong ones.

As for the President, is he being treated differently because he is black? I do not know, but I do not remember Kerry supporters demanding to see the birth certificate of Howard Dean. I also seem to remember that the only OTHER candidate whose Church was used against them was Jesse Jackson. Of course then the Farrakhan links as well. Oh which candidate had that used against him?

Acorn existed for years in America. McCain when he was a once reasonable person spoke at their functions. Now Obama is elected, it is the most evil thing ever and has its hands on everything. Two rich kids with too much time on their hands should not have been able to get a Democratic Congress in a panic over a dubious tape.

Racists may be fewer in number, they are however be louder when all ganged up, however it is hard to give a fuck about people who hate you anyway. The ironic thing is, many of them are now part of the great suppressed. Institutional, systemic racism has not ended, it is still as pernicious as ever.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 02:54 PM
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78. Is there any proof of that? Do you really beleive that?
Racism exists in every country on earth. How do the Chinese feel about the Japanese? Indian caste system? Tribal rivalries in Africa? European genocides?

Racism is the default position for everyone.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 12:47 PM
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73. It's not growing. It never stopped. n/t
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 02:43 PM
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77. +100..
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 02:43 PM
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76. Growing? Interesting choice of word there.
It's always been here. You've just started paying attention.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 02:59 PM
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79. Some clown actually brought out the "Why is there a Miss Black America
and no Miss White America?" argument on another message board just this morning!! :rofl:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 03:08 PM
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80. There will always be hate.
Racial, class, gender, religious, area-based, political, orientation.

It's part of human nature. I'm open to suggestions on how to eliminate it past the individual level.
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 03:16 PM
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81. I just think that existing racists feel more comfortable in..
spewing their bile.

I do think that racism is slowing going away rather than growing. Most racists I encounter are middle aged or older.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 03:40 PM
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83. Yes, and I believe they are getting those ideas not only from
their great god, "The Rushbo" as well as other media but in the churches as well. It's a sick society that those institutions are creating.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-10-10 03:44 PM
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84. The ugly truth
it's always been there. From urban renewal to Hurricane Katrina to reports of incredible disparities in justice and employment show racism is far from gone. The signs of segregation and racism came off of America's walls, not off of America's conscience.
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