Informants: Vick shot, bludgeoned dogs

Informants: Vick shot, bludgeoned dogs


ATLANTA, Jan. 10 (UPI) -- Informants claim former Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick drowned, shot and bludgeoned fighting dogs to death, documents indicate.

Summaries of interrogations of a member of Vick's dogfighting ring and with confidential informants conducted by federal investigators were released Friday to WSB-TV, Atlanta, through a Freedom of Information Act request. The broadcaster said they contained claims that Vick killed fighting dogs that didn't perform well by hitting them with shovels and that he got an "adrenaline high while killing the dogs."

The transcripts were compiled by the U.S. Department of Agriculture as investigators probed dog fighting allegations against Vick.

They also indicated that a Delta Airlines employee was fired for trying to "get Vick around security" while the dog fighting investigation was at its peak, and that the ex-quarterback hired the fired employee himself because he "felt responsible," WSB reported.

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2010/01/10/Informants-Vick-shot-bludgeoned-dogs/UPI-33991263159797/

much less play football? :puke: :puke: :puke: :argh:

:kick:

he did his time. he is moving on with his life.

:sarcasm:

punish 'em forever. Lock em up and throw away the key. Better yet, put 'em to death!!!11!

:sarcasm:

the ironic thing is i'm a frigging cop. i put scumbags like vick in handcuffs.

i just believe that if somebody pays his debt to society, he deserves a fair shake.

to scold us for mentioning his horrendous brutality....

Not too far from this post. Vick is pond scum and no amount of "he paid his dues" BS will make it right. I'd like to dunk him in Gravy Train and run him through a kennel.

and dump him out in wolf country in the late winter/early spring when they're really really hungry.

:applause:

He gave an interview to a Baltimore station (where the awards are given) saying how much he deserved the award for turning his life around.

Who might be next? Charlie Manson?

"No one had suffered more than he had."

I guess the guy from the Jacksonville Jaguars who got shot in a drive-by, had a leg amputated has had it much easier

I'd say they suffered more than he did.

bring out the worst in me. A desire to do horrible things to him in revenge - which in my heart, I know I would never be capable of performing. Regardless, I am stuck with an impotent rage against this truly sorry example of mankind.

If there is such a thing as a karmic curse on that team, then let this be it... I hope they lose every major game possible.

And your curse is out of line. Not that you care at all.

You defend the enabling of those who wish to whitewash the worst in human behavior-- award in "courage", indeed... :eyes:


You know, sometimes there are more important issues in life, than ensuring your own entertainment value.

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at least in the playoffs they are.

Athletically speaking, Michael Vick is the least of my worries.

:shrug:

how "liberal" of you

I hope if I'm ever convicted of mistreating animals by torturing and killing them, I'll have the glowing-phrases of the media fawning over me. It'll help me during my rehabilitation stage. Then I can become a productive member of society again, after I "paid my dues" and received my "courage award."

his criminal sentence is over. People can think what they want about him.

people can think whatever they want.

i have a problem with people who want to take away his livelihood (the NFL) because of a crime he has PAID HIS DUES on

that 'no one has suffered more than he has' the answer is Yes.

So long as they've done their "time" I'm sure rapists and murderers are fine with you as well.

How "liberal" of you.

:hug:

He got off easy and is back to making his big bucks from people who are on par with Gladiator fight spectators.

This guy is lower than a snake's belly in a wagon rut.

I saw some photos of these poor, bloodied dogs quite a while ago and still can't get them out of my mind. Yeah, "he did his time". But this low-life's mindset will never change, I'm afraid.

walking around free and never spent a day in jail? So dogs are more valuable than some human lives? Oh, yeah, and dropping bombs from unmaned drones is hero duty?

He abused and killed sentient beings.

With a leap like that, you should be in the NBA.

I will NEVER forgive what he did... EVER. :mad:

So glad the Falcons got rid of him.

for these poor creatures.

My grandmother was from the country and was blessed with the equivalent for animals what plant lovers call a "green thumb". Give her some skinny little runt and a few weeks... it would thrive. She taught me so much, and I my companions have been dogs, cats, hamsters, geese, ducks and rabbits (as an adult at various times, in my childhood all at once) throughout my life.

What I can't comprehend is the callousness of this "person". I have a son, and I can't vouch for how I would have reacted had my child acted so viciously.

and it made me unconsciously grab them and pull them closer. What a monster he is. :(

It makes me feel what I imagine parents feel when they realize their child had potential for contact with a child molester in the neighborhood.

And, it makes me think very poorly of those whose obsession with football blinds them to this man's depravity and makes them all too willing to "credit" him, while chastising the rest of us for not forgiving Vick his "sins." Damn shitty priorities, if you ask me.

Football is not a "normal" job where you can serve your time and go back to what you were doing... pro athletes are role models, whether they like it or not, and any team that would take him has some totally F'd priorities!!! :grr:

pro athletes are not role models.

god knows that point gets proven time and time again.

pro football is a place for people who... play football very well

not as an example of moral superiority

You may be telling a truth here, but the societal facts are what they are. Pro athletes are role models and cherry picking the bad apples (intentionally mixed metaphor) to show they're not is irrelevant.
GAC

i am saying they are NOT role models. they are people who are talented athletes. but many are complete scumbags

Outrage at Vick, over what he did to those dogs, stems from an unrealistic expectation of "moral superiority"?

If simply not torturing and killing dogs is all that is required for "moral superiority" then I must be the Pope.

but the idea that he shouldn't be allowed to play pro football AFTER he did his time, is what is ridiculous to me.

heck, if he was a convicted murderer, and had done his time, i would hope he would be allowed to play.

i don't respect vick as a person.

i think he's scum.

i'm just saying that being a scumbag shouldn't disqualify one from the NFL.

nor does it

It has everything to do with his being a human being. Why should his celebrity status as a football player give him a "pass" ?

i think he's a piece of shit. so do you, i assume.

i don't think that has any bearing on his talent as a football player

Especially Simon, on the left here... he is a little snuggler :)

I remember you posting them :)

But that Simon looks like a corker! :)

:hug:

I held my little pup to as i read this story and immediately thought of a regular at the dog park, T-T a pit mix who had her ears cut off with scissors so she could be a bait dog! She is the sweetest dog you would ever meet and it pains me everytime I think about the future she could have had.Luckily she has a very caring owner who loves her very much now!

Michael Vick is a sicko and should be not be allowed around animals or children. I wish our society wasn't so accepting of his his sick behavior.

and his team wants him to have the Ed Block courage award? Words fail me.

and as a 50+ year fan, I made my sentiments known after they picked Vick up when no one else would have him. I was excoriated by some of the slimier members here, as "coming around when they win" and all that crap. This guy is a pure sociopath and the Team is disgraceful...I can't believe that they did this for absolutely no football reason, but b/c our coach is such a creep himself, he pulled this stunt to get attention. Well, the hated Cowboys sure made short work of my (former) team and I can only hope and pray that Reid (the coach) McNabb(the QB) and Vick are all gone next year...but Reid just signed a 3 year extension...so I'm gonna need Divine Intervention.

It was painful, but worth it.

I hope Philly never wins another game with that POS on the team.

It was unforgivable when they picked up Vick and they rubbed salt on the wound of animal lovers everywhere when the team gave him that courage award and claimed "no one has suffered more than him". I hate the Cowboys but I would never root for a team with Vick on it.

One can be a fan, an active supporter--without becoming a "all-accepting" sycophant..


While I've never been an Eagles fan, per se', if they get rid of all the creeps, I'd be happy to send some good wishes their way (except, of course when they play my team--LOL)

it is atrocious what happened to them. Most of them have families and Cherry, the most distraught one used as a bait dog and had to be carried from place to place is now being fostered. Fuck Michael Vick.

FUCK MICHAEL VICK!

ENOUGH!

:kick:

The Virginia county District Attorney (whoever it was that first had this case, a local authority), was told right from the start by informants, that Vick was extremely sadistic, enjoyed torturing the dogs, got them wet and then electrocuted them, shot them, stabbed them, beat them, kicked them, all of this slowly and prolonged, as a fun event. The bait dogs are restrained and muzzled, then attacked, chewed on, ripped apart, so every day of their lives is premeditated torture--and informants said right from the start how Vick organized those sessions, too, and was there enjoying it. This original local authority never did anything, and finally, much later, the U.S. District Attorney for that area finally took the case on, after many, many public protests and questions about why they were not. Then, when they finally did--they dropped and did not pursue the most serious charges, which the informants had provided proof of, and risked their lives to tell them about in court. They minimized, trivialized, "privileged" and fucked this whole case from beginning to end, never even prosecuting the main point of the organized dog-fighting torture and killing. Now, the whole thing is over; dicked.

The bungle that was the prosecution in this case is often overlooked in the Pro-Vick or Anti-Vick emotional responses.

i am sure the same people who cried for clemency for tookie are the ones here who think vick should be punished for life.

he DID HIS TIME.

he did evil stuff, and he paid a price for it.

but pro football is not a social club for the moral elite.

it's about... wait for it... people who play football well

Just as they are free to withhold their support of whichever sorry-ass team has hired his services.

i was just sayin' that the NFL is hardly a place for the moral elite.

there are a LOT of scumbags in the NFL

look @ the NBA.

some assmunch in the NBA just pulled a GUN on some other player in the locker room over a tiny debt (like $500). this guy makes MILLIONs of dollars.

simply amazing

Doesn't mean he's no longer a vile piece of gutter filth, however.

:shrug:

We all know that people from poor backgrounds just can't help it! We should forgive poor people who are sociopaths and let them go on doing their thing, because of course EVERYONE from the ghetto is used to getting off on torturing animals to death, even when they become filthy rich. It's a "cultural" thing. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:


(for the record, I think this line of argument is as classist and racist as it gets. Way to insult the millions of people who grew up in poverty and yet DON'T consider such wanton sadism to be a good time.)

You can't blame "those people" for being "savage" when they're just "products of their environment."

:eyes:

And yet most of the claims of racism get hurled at the anti-Vick crowd. Go figure. :shrug:

:crazy:

:shrug:

Why should we question the NFL's jurisprudence and psychiatric expertise? That goddamned football won't move itself down the field.

Because he's had to overcome so much.

He's a piece of shit no matter how many pretty awards are put on the putrid pile. His apologists here should watch Dogtown.

It takes a special kind of sadist to defend this guy.

Vick should've worn hunter orange and eaten some of those pooches then he'd have the cover of legitimacy for his cruelty.

They don't usually electrocute deer slowly and laugh about it. :(

Didn't he already serve his time?
Hey its just a game called football!
Those dogs deserved it.
It was just like hunting deer!
Professional athletes are not moral authorities.

Feel free to add your own dumbass-ery!

Is that what you would call it? He will never serve his time for what he did to these noble creatures. Never--except through karma, which should be coming his way fairly soon.

Damn!:rofl:

Soon we'll probably hear a story about how he plucked the toe nails from the dogs while they were alive. It still won't make a difference at this point.

We know he brutalized and killed dogs. More gory details at this point will not bring the dogs back to life. They're DEAD.

It's time to move on.

A guy commits a crime, serves his time and pays his debt to society. But several DUers seem to think that is not enough, and that he also must never again be allowed to be employed in his chosen line of work. If Robert Byrd can go from being a Grand Wizard in the Klu Klux Klan to being a US Senator then surely Vick should be allowed to play football again.