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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:35 AM
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John McCain had planned to name Joe Lieberman as his Vice Presidential running mate.
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 01:36 AM by David Zephyr
"In an interview with the CBS news magazine '60 Minutes,' Steve Schmidt described Palin as "very calm — nonplussed' after McCain met with her at his Arizona ranch just before putting her on the Republican ticket. McCain had planned to name Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., as his vice presidential choice until word leaked, sparking what Schmidt called political blowback over picking the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee."

DEMOCRATS DO NOT NEED THIS FUCKER TO HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE SENATE OR TO CONTROL THE COMMITTEES OR TO HAVE SUBPEOENA POWER.

IF HARRY REID DOESN'T DUMP THIS WORLD-CLASS BACKSTABBER AND LOVER OF WARS, THEN REID SHOULD LOSE HIS POSITION.

Is there any treachery against the Democratic Party that Joe Lieberman can't do and still be loved?

Is there any good deed that Howard Dean can do for the Democratic Party and still not get the respect he deserves?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_palin
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Kurt Remarque Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:38 AM
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1. old news
but...lieberman must go. he's making his own bed, narcissistic ass that he is
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:41 AM
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2. You know, Gore-Lieberman strikes me in a whole new light now.
Of course, Gore won, but that VP....what would have became of us?
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:16 PM
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14. You can flame me for this, but I don't think Lieberman would've been all that bad as VP
Lieberman is a man of very flexible principles who always has his own self-interest foremost in mind. As Gore's VP, his interest would've been to be loyal to President Gore (I just had to go out of my way to write that phrase -- sigh), to attack the Republicans, and to cement his support among Democrats so that he could win the nomination after Gore's two terms. He would want to ensure that he wasn't challenged from the left (e.g. by Kerry) in 2008.

His current conservatism arises partly because he thinks he's better off to be perceived as an independent thinker, unbeholden to party bosses, and partly because he's ticked off about his failures among Democrats -- his 2004 presidential bid went nowhere and then he lost the 2006 Senatorial primary. None of those factors would have been operating if the winning Gore-Lieberman ticket had actually been inaugurated.

By the way, I despise Lieberman. I was in Connecticut on primary day, playing my small role in Lamont's victory over the weasel.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:07 PM
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20. Ha!
...I'll join you in holding my nose and agreeing.

I'm especially fond of the phrase "man of flexible principles." :D
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:48 AM
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:15 AM
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5. what's funny is that I've many people say that, and I read that Dems have been morally more Liberal
than Repukes, but pretty like-minded when it comes to warfare and corporate-whoredom. Sounds about right...
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 04:12 AM
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7. That's because rich oligarchs don't care about social issues like gay marriage and abortion.
All they care about is money, so they only care about social issues only as far as it can be used to divide up the working class against itself. They don't call them "wedge" issues for nothing. Religious authoritarians care about that kind of stuff, not industrialists and bankers.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 05:29 AM
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8. thanks for the input!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:50 AM
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4. Reid may lose the November election, and if he does this is a non-issue
LIEberman is a first class a-hole, that is for sure.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:29 AM
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6. I'm kinda looking foreward to life without Harry next year.
Losing the (it turns out) useless 60 vote super majority is a small price to pay to show the Senate Dems it's time to stop acting like it's still 1957 and everybody in Washington is willing to put the country first. Republicans know their best chance at getting a majority in this next decade is to gum up the system with total obstructionism now and make the Dems look like failures. They don't care what problems get caused by congressional inaction so long as the problems occur under a Democratic majority and they can't be blamed.

Argh! I distinctly recall learning this lesson in 1994. Why do we have to learn it all over again?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 11:14 AM
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9. huh?
Republicans know their best chance at getting a majority in this next decade is to gum up the system with total obstructionism now and make the Dems look like failures.

So, they got you thinking the Dems are a failure? They won you over already?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:32 PM
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17. Yes, they've "won me over." I'm a total Republican now.
As long as you're parsing my statements on DU, please go back and re-parse the meaning of "look like failures". Jeeze, don't you have any actual conservatives to go pick a fight with?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:04 PM
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19. Yeah
It's not you, its the pervasiveness of some here that seem to be doing that.

My apologies.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:08 PM
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21. Fact is that Reid's been the best player on the Republican team
even going so far as to cross over and vote with them on right wing legislation.

So quite beyond his ineptitude- the guy's been- to continue the sports metaphor "a cancer in the locker room."

Democrats are infinitely better off without him.

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:10 PM
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22. Now that is a stretch n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:29 PM
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24. Tell it to the folks screwed over by the bankruptcy bill
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:08 PM
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10. I think Steve Schmidt has confused "very calm — nonplussed" with "vacant & stunned"
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:10 PM
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11. This is nothing new--it was news at the time that McCain wanted Lieberman.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:14 PM
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12. they were together in Jerusalem this week..
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:45 PM
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13. Whoops! There goes the BS flag!! n/t
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:03 PM
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15. always a bridesmaid, never a bride..n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:33 PM
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18. "bribesmaid"
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:20 PM
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16. Joe Lieberman continued to drive the bus even after getting passed over
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:21 PM
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23. How much does THAT suck?!1 n/t
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:42 AM
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25. Surely Mr. Lieberman had more or less
counted on that VP spot as well. His ego is so mastodont-sized, his self-overestimating so obvious, the man will flex his principles any odd how - just so he can be the centre of everyone's attention. O, his arrogance!

Let us not forget he felt genuinely hurt when, in 2004, he received dismal numbers of votes in the Democratic primaries (for president). We have experience shutting out this bloviated ego. We can do it again. If only it were 2012 yet!
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