If Coakley loses, I might go ahead and actually join the DLC.

...but I do grudgingly admire the style.

I bet they'll heave a huge sigh of relief if they lose 60 in the Senate.

Then they won't have to pretend any more.

I've made the same argument in multiple places in the last day or so and you are the first DUer who has disagreed.

I think it is blatantly obvious that the DLC does not wish to move to the left and apparently a great many at DU agree with me.

You get a subscription to their magazine. I really should have checked what that meant before I posted it on DU.

Why wait?

:shrug:

:dem:

-Laelth

But if the "progressive" segment makes themselves too expensive by constantly threatening to stay home, then a move to the center would maybe be all the Democrats can do right now to keep the Republican Party from plunging us into more trouble.

That's a strange solution you're offering to the problems created by the CorporaDemocratic Party's abandonment of its base, but I must admit that it's rather typical of the way they think.

:dem:

-Laelth

If someone's rationale for splintering is an obvious falsehood such as the notion that the two major parties are the same, there's no telling whether or not a sacrafice of a certain percentage of the center for a percentage of the left will succeed or fail, because the progressives might just think of another excuse to vote against the party, or see the concessions as still insignificant. And at that point a candidate may have alienated 2% of voters from the center to try to gain 1% of the left, who, by the looks of it, by the image they project, might never be satsfied. The ultimatum strategy is poor at establishing long-term cooperation.

So that by moving to the center on economic issues, Democrats lose votes among centrists. Centrists are funny people. At one and the same time, they swear they hate socialism, but love socialistic programs like Social Security and Medicare. Economic centrism is mostly an elitist construct of media and think tanks like Brookings, fiscally conservative and socially liberal, which pretty up rapacious conservative economic policies with things like a bit more unemployment insurance and a little more social protection for the poor (all the while increasing the ranks of the ppor with trade deals like NAFTA). But this basically right-wing economic centrism does not have much of a following among voters.

Your posting history qualifies you for joining the DLC. You'll fit right in there and I wish you only the best there.

Birds of a feather flock together.

This was during an debate where I was trying to be polite and you started going in about "fake liberals" and the Wobblies or some such.

And that's why I quickly learned that those are the tactics that are the norm at DU, and sometimes the only way to get people not to just beat up on you.

But back to your claim that you are "actually more liberal than most people think."

Trust me, you are not.

:shrug:

you need to quit holding back though. Why not get in touch with the real you and just join the RNC?

Lets all help push the Party closer to the teabaggers....

I have been very disappointed how this affair up in Mass. has been handled to date.

She seems the wrong candidate at the wrong time to replace the legacy that was Senator Kennedy. And that crack about disdaining "shaking hands in front of Fenway Park in the cold" didn't help.

But the alternative is unthinkable - I hope she rallies in the end.

Republican Lite.