...the Democrats are finished as a governing party. If Massachusetts turns its back on us, who's left to turn against us?

:evilgrin:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7500945

IF Coakley loses, and it's not a sure thing by a long shot, it will be because she was a weak candidate. It's not any sort of rebuke to the entire party.

But thanks so much for your concern.

Really...a colossal fuck up like Bush and company cannot destroy the Republican party...but Democrats are easily tankable because Democratic voters are put off by Republican lite behavior?

THat fuck up is not fixable. The DLC behavior is.

Keep snoring. Your superior brainpower bullshit/Center of left is EXTREME/"someone wants a pony"/faux superiorty crap runs out soon. The clock is ticking and you are doing nothing to fix the offset on the political spectrum in the US. When it runs out...

Then you'll maybe have to fix the Republican party to be doing what the DLC is doing now. I know...it might mean some actual work. You have my pity.

And to theat point you will blame all losses on "the left"...fuck anyone who dreams of political representation.

I remember in early 1992 when nobody wanted to lose to GHWB. Things change; memories are short. Don't freak.

Good point

Cycles happen. Live is a rollercoaster.

Were DOOOOOMED!

Seriously, stop it.

And no, this won't be Mass. turning its back.

:eyes:

maybe it might remind us of how important it might be to get off our ass in 2010. We simply can't afford to lose...I'm not talking about the Dems - I'm talking about our country...

In Texas voting at your leisure for three weeks before means that turnout is huge.

R U Series??/1 :wow:

Obama catches Clinton
Obama now leads Clinton by a margin of 33-31 percent, thanks to an apparent surge of support the night after he won the Iowa caucuses. Given the poll's margin of error, the numbers amount to a statistical tie. But that still marks a gain for Obama, who has trailed Clinton in New Hampshire for months.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/24287.html



Barack Obama takes New Hampshire lead
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1574753/Barack-Obama-takes-New-Hampshire-lead.html

Obama leads opinion polls on eve of New Hampshire primary

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iDmBDur-hALlPwSUhQr51SA9DFgQ



Election 2008: New Hampshire Democratic Primary
Final New Hampshire Poll: Obama 37% Clinton 30%
Tuesday, January 08, 2008
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/new_hampshire/election_2008_new_hampshire_democratic_primary

NH Primary Poll: Obama opens double-digit lead over Clinton

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (CNN) -- With Tuesday's New Hampshire primary fast approaching, Sen. Barack Obama has opened a double-digit lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton in the state, a CNN-WMUR poll found Sunday.

Obama, the first-term senator from Illinois who won last week's Iowa caucuses, led the New York senator and former first lady 39 percent to 29 percent in a poll conducted Saturday and Sunday -- a sharp change from a poll out Saturday that showed the Democratic front-runners tied at 33 percent.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/06/nh.poll/index.html

Poll: 9-point lead for Obama on eve of N.H. primary

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/07/nh.poll/index.html




Just sayin'! :shrug:

Funny how Obama had a consistent lead in all the NH precincts that used actual ballots, but those numbers were the exact reverse in the Diebolded precinct.

Granted, it all worked out in the end, but wouldn't you have rather had accurate results (which might have prevented that ridiculously extended primary season).

Presidency and control of both chambers of Congress. Instead of 60 (59? 58? 56?) Dems in the Senate, we'll have one less.

We have notice to get our sh#$ together by November AND shine a microscope back on Republicans.

They can filibuster financial reform, banking reform, etc. They'll get their chance to show whose side they are on and we wont have a week to try to make sure everyone knows.

The sun will come up tomorrow and Wednesday.

It is going to be OK.

I recommend avoiding hysterical cable news and bloggers.

I'd hate to be in foxhole with any of you.

I'm just really depressed at the prospect. I've worked my fingers to the bone in the health care reform efforts and here we are on the cusp of finally achieving something that has eluded Democratic presidents for seven (7) decades, only to have a Senate seat lost in a special election to replace, of all people Ted Kennedy, who championed health care reform his entire life.

Massachusetts, please, PLEASE don't let this happen.

eluded Democratic presidents for seven (7) decades"...This bill is an abomination that needs to be killed with a shovel and have a stake driven through its heart. About the only good thing that could conceivably come out of a Brown victory is that it might actually kill this sick excuse for "health care reform" that's far worse than doing nothing at all.

:cry:

Howard Johnson's right about Van Johnson being right!

...that conservatives aren't the least bit emotional about anything.

turn their back on Massachusetts—and the rest of us? It's worth thinking about.

Brown wins, a bunch of Democratic congresscritters get really scared, and we drop this loser of an excuse for healthcare reform. The voters forget about it all by November, and we suffer minimal losses.

Then, in 2013, with a newly elected President Obama and some real progressives in Congress (the Blue Dogs lose their seats in 2010, and are replaced by vulnerable Repukes) we try again, this time with either single payer or a robust public option.

If Brown wins or loses, and the Democratic Congress marches off the cliff with this miserable steaming pile they call healthcare reform, then we lose really big in November, and we will lose again in 2012.

That's the way I call it.

which is what we always do. The fight is never over and never ends.

If the Democrats lose the Senate race in Massachusetts tomorrow, we will get up, dust ourselves off, and start again. I'm a native-born Texan living in Texas; I am well aware that it's going to be a long-term struggle to put the USA back on the right path.

As for friend Brown...If (Heaven forbid) he wins tomorrow, it is my hope that a galvanized Massachusetts Democratic Party throws him out in the next election so fast that he'll make Rick Santorum look like someone with the political longevity of John C. Stennis.