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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:28 PM
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Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, and Joe Lieberman just became the most powerful pols in America
....and thus, the world.

Tonight, the champagne falls mainly in Maine.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:30 PM
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1. Or... they just became irrelevant.
Fuck this 60-vote bullshit. Kick Lieberman's backstabbing ass out of the caucus and pass real reform through reconciliation.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:32 PM
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4. It's not going to work that way... and you were/are a fool for thinking it would

Harry Reid won't do shit without 60 votes.

That was proven during the stimulus bill voting (when we didn't have 60 votes yet). It was catered to Snowe, Collins, and Specter (before he switched).


Yes... they *CAN* get it through with reconciliation.... but they won't try.


The '10 campaign, from the Dems perspective will be "we tried, but the American people resisted. Next subject."
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:36 PM
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8. Reid didn't do shit *with* 60 votes.
The 60 votes excuse was always bullshit. We should call them on it and insist that they pass a real reform bill.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:34 PM
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6. oh god no....can`t have that.
time for obama to put on his big boy pants and start kicking ass or he`ll be another jimmy carter.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:31 PM
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2. really?.....funny how three people now control our democracy.....
i guess i won`t have to vote this year.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:31 PM
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3. Yep
We'll never get anything they don't want now.

Thanks a lot, MA.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:32 PM
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5. I don't agree.
I think that Droopy Joe just became irrelevant. We no longer need to kiss his ass to maintain a mythical 60-seat majority.

This may actually be a blessing in disguise.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:37 PM
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11. We'll still need to get to 60 for cloture

Will need two of Snowe, Collins, and Lieberman for anything to happen.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:35 PM
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7. How did BushCo get so much legislation through with far fewer numbers? eom
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:36 PM
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9. Didn't care about the Constitution.
nm
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:36 PM
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10. Neither did the dems who voted with him apparently.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:46 PM
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14. Yes, especially the "gutless wonders" who voted for the Iraq War Resolution.
Some true armchair warriors with feet of clay. :puke:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:45 PM
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13. It was more than that, HE PUSHED it . eom
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:47 PM
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15. Neocon enabling DLC members.
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:37 PM
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12. They weren't already?
Darn.

I was hoping the upside to losing this election would be that we could write off those fools and never have to hear from them again. Grrr.
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 09:47 PM
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16. Not even sexual favors will be enough to nab their votes. nt
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