Anyone care to predict how or if this will change Obama's future actions?

Just askin...

He'll make more concessions to please the fascist scumbags.

he's just a corporate DNCer. the repug dem dichotomy is false. They are both on the side of the corporations

tomorrow with less dems in congress will be no different from today

CORPORATE BUSINESS AS USUAL.

Who's your favorite? Monsanto perhaps?

Tool!

It's worse than ever, why would you get over it?

If they have their way they won't stop until we're slaves, in fact we are de-facto slaves already.

unions, etc...

what can he fucking do now?

The Senate would have to abolish the filibuster. I guess they are too "wimpy" for that.

tack hard to the right. Obama's spine will continue to liquefy until it falls out of his pant leg. They'll all completely misread this whole episode. Have you ever seen them undergo any setback that they didn't completely misread and fuck up even further?

Started the minute Coakley conceded, the ripple effect went through the entire Dem leadership.

Look for a major "win" in the near future.

I do not forget.

We'll throw him under that bus that Keith Olbermann is always talking about.

The rest of us will support him and look for ways to keep up the fight -- even as the hipster wing of the party (not to be confused with progressives) gives us grief for it.

The Revolution was nice while it lasted. I just never thought we'd turn on Obama so quickly. It took about one month. And today is the First Anniversary of his inauguration, isn't it?

--d!

I'm a very loyal Democrat. I never would have dreamed I'd be disillusioned with Obama already. Never in a million years did I think he'd turn into a surrender monkey on every issue.

it's intentional

I don't see any fight, other than reneging on "promises" made in the campaign.

Its one thing to get thrown under the bus.

Its another to throw yourself there.

The Obama election "narrative" was a powerful piece of theater. The Obama executive "narrative" not so much. I see/read/hear a great deal of rhetoric about "change" but at the end of the day, there is no there, there.

talks the people's talk

and walks the corporate's walk

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4233143

hipsters: poor elderly people completely dependant on their SS for survival who have hip problems and feel our biggest Dem rep is a privatization-loving corporate servant

At least on the main stream media, the narrative is a total defection from independents, centrists who lost interest.

that suggested that he would NOT be swinging to the right regardless of the outcome. :shrug:

There's a little 'damned if you do damned if you don't'. I've heard Republicans tapping into the "there's no real change" argument you hear a lot around here, and a swing to the right could make that even more powerful. Then you've got Beck and crew saying that this "socialist" health care bill is a far cry from the Brown style "populism" that the people really want, and that looks powerful too, at least as far as independents are concerned. So that could get him if he swings left.

I almost hope he moves neither left nor right, but into a new direction. Just try to find good things that can get done and get them done.

However, it will be nothing compared to seeing what will happen after the November mid-term elections. I remain unconvinced that it will be the "bloodbath" that some people think it will be for the Dems but he will undoubtedly be dealing with a much more reduced majority in both houses than just one seat in Massachusetts (that could easily go blue again in a couple of years). I think that the reason he has moved so fast on so many fronts during the past 1-2 years is that he knew that the issues he's dealing with now would be (and have proved to be) the most contentious issues, which is why I believe he and the Dems will ultimately figure out some way to get HCR through. Once HCR gets through, he and the Dems can focus on other issues that might be easier to win bipartisan support for (i.e. jobs program of some sort)- or use to run against the Repubs in 2012 if they persist in their rampant obstructionism of anything and everything.

though, unless they enjoy burying their head in the sand.

Given Obama's lack of passion, leadership and direction on this HCR though, I can't really tell if he gives a damn or not. Time will tell.

My initial inclination is to think there will simply be more of the same.

What it all boils down to for me is that Obama and the Democrats are scared to death to do the right thing (although they know what it is), and the Republicans (who follows dogma rather than common sence and logic) are more than willing to do the wrong thing.

The voting public (who are very easily mislead and who are stuck in the middle of this insanity) get tired of one party and throw the bums out, which alternates with each election cycle.

And they should know.

opposite. :(

And probably give Brown a call to see how much he can give up to him in the name of "bipartisanship."

:mad:

...how will this affect other Democrats?...especially those in purple and red areas. President Obama is not a dictator...he can't get anything done without a Congress...especially a Senate...that wants to enact change. His big mistake was hoping that since he was a former Senator that he'd be able to forge some bipartisan support on important things such as healthcare and got it shoved up his backside. His big thing during this first year was to try to be the President of ALL the people...and last night showed that it doesn't work. If anything, he's boxed himself in...no matter which way he moves, he'll be criticized. I suspect we'll see a year of nothing...as last night surely sent a chill to every Democrat facing re-election who would prefer not to make waves.

. . .but I expect many will try and emulate conservatives to avoid stirring up the opposition. But I think that strategy is doomed to failure. We need to give progressive voters a reason to show up and be counted as Democrats.

We saw it on the GOOP side in the closing days of this election. They had the motivation since they're out of power and can easily pass off all frustrations and failures (including their own) as the fault of the Democrats. Be assured the corporate media will echo this meme and thus will scare those in purple and red districts to avoid any controversy or to get their attention.

You are right, Progressives need to do a far better selling job if they're to get a bigger seat at the table. It's getting out and organizing...working together rather than fighting among each other over whose a "better" Progressive or dismiss those who don't pass their purity tests. Most important, it's to understand that President Obama's election as well as the '06 and '08 Democratic gains were more a result of rejection of the rushpublicans as opposed to supporting a Progressive or Liberal agenda. The only way to push that forward is to get more Progressives elected...working hard on the grassroots to win on the merits...from strengths not weaknesses.

. . . and soft-pedaling or delaying anything that might upset republican voters before the mid-terms.

I'd like to see them give progressive voters a reason to show up at the polls, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

righties and teabaggers. Pretty soon Obama's going to move so far to the right that he'll be out protesting himself!

My president is more willing to bend over for the republicans than he ever was. Check out the news on the health care one-time-reform bill.