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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:49 PM
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U.S. marijuana even stronger than before: report
Source: REUTERS

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The marijuana being sold across the United States is stronger than ever, which could explain a growing number of medical emergencies that involve the drug, government drug experts on Wednesday.

Analysis of seized samples of marijuana and hashish showed that more of the cannabis on the market is of the strongest grade, the White House and National Institute for Drug Abuse said.

They cited data from the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project showing the average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, in the products rose from 7 percent in 2003 to 8.5 percent in 2006.

...

"It's really not the same type of marijuana," Volkow said in a telephone interview.

"This could explain why there has been an increase in the number of medical emergencies involving marijuana."

Read More: http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2542461720070425?feedType=RSS&pageNumber=1




Now look at the googling of the phrase 'medical emergencies involving marijuana':

http://www.google.com/search?q=medical+emergencies+involving+marijuana&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Obviously this laughably flimsy argument has been tried in the past. The term actually refers to people who list mj as one of their recently used drugs upon filling out a form in an emergency room. It in NO WAY correlates to the mj actually causing the medical emergency.

Oh, and I now want to move to Oregon.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:53 PM
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1. anyone who has ever been a smoker knows......
that medical emergencies involving marijuana on the increase is a bald face lie. Unless of course they've gone to the hospital for a belly ache cause they got the munchies and ate too much.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:56 PM
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7. Oh it can be worse than that.
Granted i'm a lightweight, but I got so stoned a couple of times that I just laid on the floor puking I was so dizzy. I wouldn't necessarily call it a medical emergency, but it was worse than a belly ache.

Honestly, I blame Nascar. I smoked some really powerful stuff and my friend had nascar on, and next thing I know the centrifiugal force pulled me out of the chair onto the floor and I was so dizzy I started vomiting after I had crawled to the bathroom.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:14 PM
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24. were you smoking after drinking?
cause that will do it every time.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:17 PM
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26. Not that time
It was just insanely powerfull stuff. Everyone there except the guy who supplied it and was a total pothead were floored by it. Me literally. One of the last times I smoked. Just made me not want to touch it anymore.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:33 PM
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33. Ugh -- it always did for me
I don't know why, but it ALWAYS made me sick if I mixed it like that.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 04:01 PM
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41. ...a name...a name
Damn. If I wasn't stoned I could remember it...<g>

There is a name for that kind of nausea. I found that out when I started playing virtual first person shooter type video games and it always made me ill. I would puke my guts out. My doctor told me the name...damn.. For some people, just watching motion can bring on motion sickness. It also tends to be familial. I wish I could remember what it's called. She told me if the games were worth it, just keep playing and the nausea would go away...and it did. It took a while but I can now play my games without getting ill.
Lee
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:06 PM
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12. I know of a medical emergency from pot use
My friend fell off the balcony, only a three foot drop, but we almost died laughing at him. He wanted to go to the hospital, but the word "ambulance" was so funny we all just giggled until he forgot all about it.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:15 PM
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25. dying laughing was the emergency no?
or was your friend seriously injured falling 3 feet?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:08 PM
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16. Unless you're allergic.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:11 PM
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21. Depends on the severity. My best friend is allergic - no medical emergencies there.
Edited on Wed Apr-25-07 03:11 PM by Zhade
NT!

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:12 PM
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22. Everything *does* depend on severity. Sorry I didn't make that xtra-super clear.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:21 PM
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28. No worries - just clarifying for our readers.
:)

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:28 PM
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29. Yup - a reader could think that severity *didn't* matter. Thanks!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:32 PM
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31. No, a reader could misread your post as saying allergic = automatic medical emergency.
Some people (unlike us) might be confused, thus the clarification.

:)

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:45 PM
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35. You're right. They could.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:53 PM
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2. Bullshit. WHAT medical emergencies? They don't even list any in the article.
Complete bullshit propaganda. You want to go after a harmful substance that really IS destroying communities? Then focus on (the very unnatural) meth. But leave the herb alone.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:57 PM
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8. or alchohol
Just sayin...booze kills alot more people.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:54 PM
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3. "...medical emergencies involving marijuana."
:rofl: "Doctor, I tripped and hit my head in my rush to get the refrigerator open!"
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:55 PM
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4. Where can I get some of this killer weed the prohibitionists are always talking about?
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:59 PM
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10. And you only want to know because you are doing medical
research, right?

:smoke: :crazy: :rofl:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:07 PM
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13. Like that 33% THC bud from Oregon?
I'm not entirely sure, but is that even possible? I've seen nearly pure THC in the form of kif, it seemed just like a sticky, milky white, crystalline material. I find it hard to imagine bud consisting of 1/3rd that stuff. Then again, if that is true, someone has developed one hell of a strand.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:09 PM
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18. ummm sticky bud
where can we find this stuff?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:55 PM
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5. Total bullshit
The only way marijuana is more dangerous is if it is cut with bad drugs.
In my many years of nursing--I have NEVER seen anyone come in with marijuana toxicity, overdose, or anything else.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:56 PM
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6. one more way people can lie using numbers
math is NOT all there is, folks
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 02:59 PM
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9. Medical emergencies?
Like a tummy ache from eating too many cookies? Or maybe a 7-8 hour period of unconsciousness followed by a strong desire for a cup of coffee? :donut:
Emergency room staff must be OVERWHELMED by this crisis! :rofl:
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:05 PM
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11. What a load of crap.
Good grass now is the same as good grass in 1977.

Wish these idiots would focus on alcohol abuse, and leave us be.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:10 PM
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20. Or 1967.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:18 PM
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27. I don't know if that's true...
I wouldn't doubt it if the THC level in bud has increased over the years. With all the new growing techniques and all the time and money invested in proper genetics, I would hope that it would increase. However, what I have yet to hear is why that's a bad thing. People self-titrate with marijuana, so they'll smoke as much as they'd like to get as high as they'd like. If they're smoking more potent bud, that simply means they're smoking less so are inhaling less vegetative matter, and that's a good thing no matter who you ask. So why is stronger bud a bad thing?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:08 PM
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14. We can build a better joint.... We have the technology.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:08 PM
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15. The medical "emergencies" are panic attacks brought on by Drug War fears.

I see this all the time in kids who grew up in the 80's with Nancy Regan on their shoulder.



Also, The article is claiming the Hashish is becoming more powerful?

What total bullshit. In India and Morocco, Hashish hasn't changed potency in several generations. Maybe it hasn't gotten more powerful since before the 1800's. All that is happening is that hash is being made properly in America with the silkscreen method and not the improper way of boiling down stems in alcohol.


As for Street pot? Yes that is becoming more powerful, but users also use less and pay MUCH more for good stuff.

In other words the buzz per dollar has not changed and the only thing affected is that pot smokers' lungs aren't exposed to as much toxic smoke.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:09 PM
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Uh, "government drug experts?" Like the ones who OK'd FenFen?
Or are we talking about the ones involved in selling drugs to fund secret wars around the world? Or the ones who do a bunch a drugs and then talk about how bad drug abuse is?
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:09 PM
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17. Total LIE!!
Fucking lie.

Baldface lie.

Sack of crap lie.

Straight-up lie.

Right Wing lie.

Piece of Junk lie.


Lielielielielielie...

Lee
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:10 PM
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19. BUULLSSHHIITT!
Total fucking fabrication. What medical emergencies? Marijuana has been shown to medically safe and beneficial by quite a number of recently-released studies.

STOP LYING, ASSHOLES!

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:13 PM
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23. Where is this XXX Potent shit...? I wanna know...LOL
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:31 PM
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30. There remain zero cases of marijuana overdose
Edited on Wed Apr-25-07 03:33 PM by endarkenment
and it continues to have no known toxicity.

As usual the major risks identified with the use of this particular illegal drug are all the direct consequences of incarceration. Most other illegal drugs are exactly the same, although some of them add in dosage irregularities and impurity poisonings to incarceration.

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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:56 PM
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40. ...BUT it leads to....
...a better mood.
...a sane outlook.
...a bit of happiness.
...some fun.
...a nice time.
...relaxation.
...inspiration.
...attitude adjustment.

...and who would want that?
Lee *lighting her pipe as she posts*
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:32 PM
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32. But, they banned marijuana DECADES ago! I thought that solved the whole "marijuana problem!"
I'm shocked-- SHOCKED!
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:42 PM
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34. The War on Pot is a multi-billion dollar industry
and must be kept going at all costs. Also it allows the Goodly Government to make criminals out of a large segment of society. Because all land and people inside the US belong to the Federal.

You here at DU better begin to understand that fact.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:46 PM
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36. Hmmm... I wonder if the 'Marijuana Potency Project' is hiring more researchers?

:hippie:

And... will they accept resumes written on, um, really small thin paper?


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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:50 PM
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37. Well then they should legalize it so they can regulate the amount of
THC.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 04:12 PM
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42. Why should they do that?
Wouldn't it be better if people could buy pure THC if it were available? After all, that's why people smoke bud, right? If people got to smoke pure THC, they would need to smoke an very small amount, and they wouldn't need to worry about all the tar associated with smoking vegetative matter. If the government regulated THC content, that would just lead to people smoking massive amounts of 1-3% THC bud. That hardly seems like a good thing.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:53 PM
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38. cool!!
where can I score some of this super bud??

:smoke: :hippie:
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 03:54 PM
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39. First time Ive been proud to be an American in years
;)
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