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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:09 PM
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We at DU are out of touch, according to Pew.
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 11:25 PM by MyUncle
Check this out. Link to whole article - http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1472/public-priorities-president-congress-2010

The stuff that fans our flames and recs are way down the list. I need a job, but I need a planet as well. Global Warming is dead last. Health Insurance and Financial Regulation are 1/2 way down the list of the top top concern percentages.

Yet our party is all about Health Insurance, Financial Regulation and Global Warming. Perhaps that is where the some of the disconnect is?

I for one need a job. I am unemployed 2x in the past year and I need a job!
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:12 PM
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1. Those of us in the daily SMW and week-end WEE threads
are most definitely in touch.

We've known literally for years that the economy is the #1 issue, even if it's not the #1 priority.

Without a healthy, well-functioning economy, there is nothing else.




Tansy Gold
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:13 PM
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2. why is terrorism a priority for 80% ?
I don't get it. You're more likely to be struck by lightning than get involved in a terror attack in the states.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:16 PM
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6. Maybe they don't think that's the point. Someone, anyone getting "involved" is too many for some.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:17 PM
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7. That's what I was going to ask.
Of all the wastes of money and time, terrorism is such a fake worry.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:17 PM
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9. It's because people are scared.
And the previous administration did all they could to foster that environment.

Easier to lose our freedoms if we're convinced that doing that will protect us from the terrorists...

I think that's why.

:shrug:
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:18 PM
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10. My point exactly, "I DON'T GET IT"
I don't either.

If this is accurate, the stuff we get hot about (other than the economy) is way, way down the ladder in terms of people's hierarchy of needs.

Look where the military is. Abortion does not even make the list.

If you don't get and I don't get it, perhaps we and our party ARE disconnected?
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:21 PM
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13. Fear Rules
It always has and it always will. The videos of the airplanes flying into the World Trade Center are embedded in our minds forever and the media and politicians know it.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:22 PM
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14. because terrorism is the latest boogeyman
we are all supposed to fear.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, we needed something else to worry about... "terrorism" is it.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:20 AM
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28. Cuz terra-ism is bad . . M'kay n/t
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:29 AM
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33. In mid-2001, it was sharks (n/m)
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:15 PM
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3. Curious that War is not a category.
Terrorism and military are more soothing terms.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:15 PM
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4. Let's see....
Medicare at 63, deficit reduction is 60, health care totals 57, and helping the poor captures 53.


And they all get better with single payer health care(not prefect just better). Can you name a single piece of legislation that could do more?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:15 PM
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5. i'm surprised they even put global warming on there...such nonsense
the people i know are not that stupid
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:07 AM
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25. Your friendships are self-selecting. This was obviously asked as an open-ended question
and the responses were categorized.

You'd NEVER read a list this long over the phone.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:17 PM
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Trade policy, lobbyists and finance regulation IS the Economy and Jobs
Defining "the Economy" and "Jobs" is just a matter of how deep you want to go.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:17 PM
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8. I simply don't buy this poll. Is Pew right-wing?
Terrorism is #3? Social Security is #4? Does anyone have any way to actually verify these findings? IOW, could Pew simply make up any numbers it wants which reflect its own agenda? Just saying, this list looks totally bogus, and I know I'm not just "projecting" my own wants and wishes. No way in bloody hell that Americans are more concerned with "deficit reduction" or "terrorism" than they are with their own health care. But of course, I could be an outlier.

:eyes:

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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:23 PM
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15. Pew is not a Repub org.
If anything is see them as left of center. Not where we are, but not in the Fox News camp.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:33 PM
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18. far from it
I'd take the poll at face value. In fact, based on the average people I talk to, this result doesn't surprise me at all. Of course the more complex issues are lower down the list - people just don't understand complex issues in this country.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:41 PM
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19. This does sound suspicious
Terrorism at 80%? Moral decline? Deficit reduction when unemployment is so high? And they put the environment and global warming as seperate issues. Hello! Global warming is an environmental issue. This poll sounds very suspect.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:53 PM
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21. That's my point, with deference to HughMoran and MyUncle
The numbers don't make sense. Hey, I talk to lots of people, too. I work in politics. I just don't hear anything like this poll is suggesting. When has "deficit reduction" ever ranked so much higher above issues which actually impact people's daily lives? There is just something not right about this poll.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:06 AM
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23. It was probably asked as an open-ended question and the responses categorized.
You would NEVER read such a long list over the phone.

You never read more than, say, five.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:18 PM
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11. What the fuck is moral decline doing in a Pew poll?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:19 PM
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12. They phrased it "helping the poor" instead of "poverty"?
WHO are the people they interviewed?
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:25 PM
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16. Remember Bill Clinton's 1992 Campaign? "It's the economy, Stupid".
That sign was in every office. And that recession from Bush 1.0 was a very mild recession, especially compared to this monster that Bush 2.0 left us with. People are concerned with what effects them directly, right now. Global Warming is a maybe future threat. Remember that about half the population votes RW, and they have RW concerns, such as Moral Decline. But everybody is concerned about their job.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:26 PM
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17. It's interesting that tax cuts are way down in the list--since that's all repubs talk about
Since that is such a huge issue with repub candidates--I even remember Scott Brown mentioning it--I wonder why anyone would go with that party. Although I suppose they present themselves as the tough on terror folks. I also find it odd that terrorism is so high on the list, particularly when I'm guessing many of those polled live in places like Podunk where they are highly unlikely to have direct contact with it.
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:51 PM
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20. Fear is not rational.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 12:13 AM by MyUncle
I have relatives, they are older. When the DC sniper was shooting people, they canceled a trip to Florida. They had to drive from CT to Florida. They are not dummies, but they were scared.

I used to go to Mexico, TJ, Rosarita Beach just to have dinner.

I have not gone to Mexico in years. I am afraid, that I'll be the odd "struck by lightning" statistic.

It is not rational, but I am afraid to go and I will not go to Mexico for now.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:04 AM
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22. DU is not at all representative of Democrats as a whole or voters as a whole. nt
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:12 AM
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26. Only time will tell. We shall see in November
Because unless there are some progressive candadites I predict there will be alot of democrats either not voting or voting for a third candadite.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:07 AM
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24. Pew!
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:20 AM
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29. Terrorism over education...
If education were a priority, we wouldn't have any of the other problems.
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:29 AM
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30. I appreciate your optimism, but ...
you can't educate our way out of many of these challenges.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:33 AM
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31. We can't get out of these challenges worrying about fake boogeymen either.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 12:34 AM by TheWatcher
Now if 80% were on to who the REAL terrorists were, then we'd have something.

Sadly, this is not the case.

They are still fearing men in Caves instead of Castles, as it were.

And thus they are manipulated as cattle.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:26 AM
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32. It's hardly optimism, it anything is a sad
acknowledgment of what should be and never will. An educated populace
would never tolerate the wars, would never be vulnerable to an economic draft.
Without the wars the economic problems would not exist. But, that will never
happen so sorry I even mentioned it.
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Capers Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:29 AM
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34. The agreeable stuff doesn't make for good flaming.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 10:59 PM
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35. As I'm sure you are aware ...
the mainstream is fucking retarded. St. Ronnie made that a reality.
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