Here's the thing--I simply don't agree with ANYbody here.

I don't agree with any side about Barack Obama.

I don't agree with any faction about the Health Care Bill.

I don't agree with any OP about the right way to straighten out the economy.

And I sure as hell don't think the Republicans are right, but I don't seem to agree with any of you either.

I don't really care anymore. Politics doesn't interest me anymore. And the funny thing is, I joined this site when I moved to a big city with no job, no clear mission in life, and no friends. And politics became my passion.

Now I have a job, many friends, and clear-cut career goals for myself. I don't care much about the headlines anymore, but--here's the thing--I care even less about anything posted here. It just doesn't seem to add up to a whole lot. I'm not exactly apathetic about the world around me--I'm just apathetic about this particular, peculiar brand of politics that's the norm these days. I want out.

This isn't a "Goodbye, cruel Blog" post, and I don't mean to insult DU or the admins. I just wanted to know if anyone else here feels the same way.

My health restricts how much I can work so I find myself spending much more time on the internet then I did before.

Remember that Seinfeld episode when all Elaine's doctors wrote that in her chart?!

Please write if you get the chance! Let us know what jobs and friends and stuff is like.

This site--and progressive politics in general--really did fill a huge gap in my life at a time (4 years ago) when I had very little.

I didn't mean to imply this was the case for anybody else.

I'm settling in with the popcorn as we speak, because this will be quite the thread, I'm sure. You're likely to get quite the roasting, don't you think? I'm not offended at all, personally, but I'm smart enough to see it for the huge brush off that it reads as. The DU that I know and love will not not take it well, overall. You basically just called us a bunch of losers :rofl: ETA I realize that's probably not what you meant to do. I understand that a busy life means less time for DU. But why would you post this? I get busy, too. I post less on DU. When I have more time, I come here more. I don't understand why busy has to mean caring about politics less, though.

then we are losers.... (at work myself) :)

This is my break time. :)

fo me i dont get a break i just work right on through the night, well i guess i do catch 40winks behind the 7 11

I don't even want to go out there. I'd be a wretched, terrible cop. :)

got pretty soaked last night, but tonight im indoors dealing with the dry idiots :)

What the hell is going on with you? vadawg, are you in love or something?

at least until this weekend coming up, its amazing how i got used to living without it and forgot what its like to live with it... :) oh got to add that i got three days of this weekend so effectively im working tomorrow then i am off for ten days woohoo (though ill spend the whole time repairing my road and moving snow, but who cares its time with the family)

kinda fits in with this thread actually, in that if it involves my kids i take a bigger interest in it than if it affects somebody elses kids :) i guess thats human nature....

We like our crazy time zone thank you very much. :)

You guys need to learn to be more nocturnal. :)

safety in the dark and all that :) gotta laugh though you got me to check my calendar thought i had lost a week or so there :) my wife laughs at me as i still live my life through seasons rather than the calendar, luckily she is a modern girl and does my schedule for me...

I don't work the Night Shift Per Say, but I DO get most of my work done at night. (Sole Proprietor.)

Sometimes it all just runs together.

I actually MISSED a day the other day and thought it was Sunday instead of Saturday.

I was actually expecting to tune into the Saints, and saw Figure Skating instead.

I hopped on The Net to see what the heck was going on, and low an behold, it was Saturday. :)

I was relieved to know I had lost time, and not my mind. :)

and if it wasnt for her i would never know what days im working and what days im not, god knows how my kids are going to learn the calender if they have to rely on me, i just prefer to measure time in different ways, i guess its a cultural thing...

You sound like you have a great family too.

Best Wishes to you, my friend.

And always remember, The Oligarchs may own the day, But We Own The Night. :hi:

:)

Sometimes I wish I could do the same.

But alas, it is not my destiny to "Go Mobile", as Mr. Townshend would say.

but once we empty nest and i retire then we hit the road... nothing wrong with ending each day with a new horizon..

My spouse and I often talk about doing the same thing.

Although I wonder how we would do it with our three "kids". (They all have four legs and a tail) :)

when i was growing up, the biggest meanest wolf hybrid mutts on the planet they were... my wife loves living in a house, i love teh mountains so its works for the moment but she knows that i want to be reaching for the next ridge...

They aren't very road friendly. :)

I love dogs too, but our boys would never let us have any.

They would eat them. :)

Mine loves having the steady roof herself, but I would love to wander. :)

though i guess they would be safe in the RV and you wouldnt have to worry about mice lol

:rofl:

And they love to hold track meets at 5:00 in the morning too.

The Olympic Committee and Guinness can kiss my ass.

I KNOW who holds the REAL world record for the 100 meter dash. :rofl:

and wont sleep anywhere near them... i guess one mans meat is another mans poison...

Ours are very loving, and I can't imagine life without them.

I guess Pumpkin Jack could be considered a dog though. He's about the size of a miniature collie, and he does play fetch.

He's a bit weird. :)

I think he was a Retriever in his former life. :rofl:

as you raise it on one hand you have to lower it on another, ie you care more about the saints and superbowl then you care less about dinner with the mother in law, you care more about what you and the girlfriend are doing on saturday night and you care less about the march on sunday morning...

I just laughed at the "Now I have friends and a job, so goodbye!" part. It just struck me as funny so I had to tease the OP a little bit. But sometimes I feel a little burned out and have to take a break from it all, so I do get that. I did think there would be some flamey responses, but so far so good! Maybe we're a more understanding bunch than I realize.

you now have other gives in your life so politics is not as important, its pretty natural that the gives change over periods of time...

See ya.

because people who agree don't have anything to add, so the only people who reply are the ones who disagree.

because the Effect doesn't apply to those. DU is great at that.

:sarcasm:

makes me feel burn out because the same cr@p recycles so much. Yeah, I go in and out of enjoying the politicking part of it all and bet a lot of people do because so much of it is so ugly and even false.

I just wouldn't worry. You're probably attending to the stuff you need to attend to right now. :shrug:

an upwardly mobile yuppy, you've found your piece of the action so the overall injustice and disparity, since it doesn't affect you as much anymore, is not on your radar screen. So you just don't care anymore.

I'm sure most of the bankers have the same attitude, after all their age range is the yuppy generation.

that said you are right in a way, until there's something like violent revolution things aren't really going to change, so why give a damn.

trying not to be overwhelmed, which is not to say the OP is doing that. Everybody has their own way of dealing with stuff.

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I have been running into a lot of people who are just suffering from outrage fatigue.

They know how bad things are, they are just resigned to it.

This stuff is draining, exhausting, and will consume you if you are not careful.

No matter what your position on things is, it's always a good idea to take a break from it if necessary.

but then I remind myself I live in Texas so it kind of puts it in perspective :rofl:

I used to live down there, so I know exactly what you mean. :)

I traded it all in for a life in the Emerald City.

BELIEVE me, it's a lot safer for those of us who, (how did that adorable creature in the movie "Kinky Boots" put it?) "Have yet to make up our minds." :)

care, for some people its just some trees to others is the embodiment of mother nature, for some the homeless guy on the corner is the cause whereas for others its the homeless guy on the other side of the planet, everybody has a level where there concern is different from their neighbours...

Let's say there are 10,000 people here. There must be some people that you agree with on some issues. It doesn't have to be BInary, as in you are either in NYC or LA. There is an entire middle of the country from Ohio to Colorado. There is also a middle ground between total Obama-hater and total cheerleader although it my not seem like it from some of the exchanges.

Here's the way internet debate seems to work though. Suppose you are in the middle of the room and I wanna get you to move to a particular side. Suppose I come up and give you a good shove. Two reactions are gonna be kinda standard. Either you will dig in and shove back, or you will back away thinking "whoa, this dude is a little bit unbalanced". Either way, cooperation is not a likely result.

Often threads will seem to be very strongly stated, the beloved RANT, which lays down the law. "This is the way it is and that's the end of the discussion and to hell with anybody not on our side!!" This is usually followed by either a chorus of 'Bravo' and 'well said' or, alternatively 'you are way off, to hell with you'.

As with your OP, which seems to be over-stated. As I asked, do you really disagree with everybody here about everything? I think it is more likely that people are people. I agree with many people here on many things, and disagree on other things. Sometimes, however, when I seem to be the lone voice of dissent on a thread with 80 KNR's I have to wonder "don't I agree with the mainstream of DU about anything?" And the other funny thing is that with many it seems that even if you agree about 85% they will declare you an enemy combatant over the 15% where you disagree.

So, off to The Matrix with you, then.

Don't worry, You ARE going to care again someday.

A LOT.

You might want to Stay Tuned.

Get back to us when you're "affected" again.

Hope you can still spare a thought once in awhile for the rest of us once you move into your Arcology...

When one becomes "comfortable" or achieves a level of comfort that allows them to exist without having to worry about having everything to lose, sometimes they take the blue pill and enter the "Bubble Of Indifference."

Things are not bad enough yet to burst this Bubble, and The Oligarchs have been very careful not to do so.

As long as people are numb and their perception is controlled, and they are sufficiently distracted, there is no threat to their agendas, or anything they wish to do.

I was rather harsh in my words, but I suppose it is just frustrating to see people lost to that lie.

It doesn't make them bad, it just makes them misguided.

Indeed. :)

Again, I was a little harsh. Maybe I myself need a break.

You know, I mentioned this upthread, but it bears noting again. I have been running into a lot of people lately who simply have outrage fatigue, or have entered kind of a "resignation" of sorts.

They are aware of how things are, but they are just kind of, I don't know, "done." I really don't know any other way to put it.

I can understand the sentiment.

Does it ever happen to you?

when ever i have had to deal with really bad stuff i found that you cant get involved personally or you end up taking the smell home with you and politics can be like that as well, read stuff, get involved but when you start to find it overwhelming you then mayby its time to walk away.... if you dont then you go bonkers...

My grandmother always used to fill my head with the Serenity Prayer, and I always rolled my eyes, but as I have gotten older, she was right to do so.

Sometimes you really DO have to limit your focus to what you can directly control, or you WILL lose it.

It is hard when you are so passionate, but it must be done.

I think my passion tends get the better of my logic sometimes, and that is a flaw I am all too aware of. :(

:hi:

And thanks for nudging some perspective my way. I need that sometimes. :)

Don't forget to take care of yourself, either.

We need your voice. :)

its human nature whether you are a millionaire, billionaire, middle class or anything else, people all see others needs differently from each other, what you find the biggest injustice on the planet is probuably totally wrong from the majority of the worlds population just as there opinion woul;d be to you... its one of the beauties of mankind is the general fucked upness of the way we see stuff...

scuba

I was raised in an apolitical family, and didn't really pay attention to politics until I turned eighteen. It was actually Ralph Nader who got me interested in politics with the phrase: "Turn onto politics, before politics turns on you." It summed up how I felt, being gay in America. I was under siege, and there were very real threats in the political arena out to get me. I turned to politics out of necessity.

I turned eighteen in 2000, and supported Nader in that election as a neophyte. I was angry at Bill Clinton for Don't Ask, Don't Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act; and because Gore was Clinton's VP I blamed him as well. Not that my vote really mattered one way or another, Bush had my state locked before the election even began, and I knew that. My vote was a protest against DADT and DOMA, cast out of anger and a feeling of not knowing what else to do.

From there I slowly began to educate myself. I immediately felt drawn to the left because of gay issues, and that eventually brought me here to Democratic Underground. I learned a lot here, but at the same time I've evolved. It's a decade later, I've learned a lot, changed a lot, been through a lot...

...and although my involvement in politics has not changed, it has gone through up and down cycles. In the end, I just remind myself: "Turn onto politics, before politics turns on you." I don't have much choice in the matter, I might check out, but I know I have enemies out there in this country that won't. It's almost like being in a war where you're forced to fight or die.

But like you, I find myself drifting away from many of the people here at DU. I feel like I've evolved while DU has stayed the same. When I came here, it was because I was angry, and I wanted to be surrounded by people who shared my anger. However, at a certain point you have to let the anger go and seek a solution to the problems that we face. That's what I've tried to do, and I feel like most people here would rather be outraged than actually do anything. After all, it's easy being a keyboard warrior, it's hard trying to actually back it up.

Another difference that has separated me from many people here, is that I've actually evolved a political philosophy. My way of approaching politics and government has changed as a result. I often feel that many people here are more moved by ideology and emotion, than reason or logic. It becomes almost like a religion to some, I think, where every ideological belief is "morally right and superior" and therefore any challenge to it is effectively an assault on the entire faith. Therefore, it becomes personal, almost like an insult. Even when criticism is valid or necessary, it is undesired - even when it can lead to improvements. This, I think, will ultimately be what pushes me away from DU.

you don't have any interest in issues like the environment, civil rights ?

i'm not sure i understand what you are saying.

but in some ways it seems like you were just on here to pass time.

i get tired of DU because i get tired of some people on here. but i never stop caring about the issues from jobs, health care, environment etc.

There are plenty of people who are willing to fight the fight. If you are not inclined then please don't try. You will be a detriment to any progress we will try and achieve. Stand down.

Vote if you must but please do not get involved. Take time with your friends and family and live a good life. Best wishes. :hi:

Trying times, for sure.

Here's something to ponder, and may calm your nerves. This guy was ahead of his time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B413NljCwI